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2017/18 Ross Barkley

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The side is being re-shaped, so I am sure whatever Barkley brought to the party will be adequately replaced by Sigurdsson, Klaassen and whoever else comes in.

You are coming across a bit as though the floor is going to fall in because Barkley is leaving, Lukaku I can understand, but not this underachiever who has improved about 5% since his debut season 4 years ago.

Nope, I don't think the floor is going to fall in. I just think we've undone the good work in the market in other areas of the team by gutting one area. So not falling, just treading water.

Sigurdsson, Giroud and a very good centre half and we'll be looking brighter. But we would have been a lot brighter again if we retained Barkley. We can't, so oh well, but it still hurts our prospects.
 
Nope, I don't think the floor is going to fall in. I just think we've undone the good work in the market in other areas of the team by gutting one area. So not falling, just treading water.

i guess we will see Mr Tubey, I am willing to be be called out if I make the wrong call, but I don't think he will be greatly missed, even if he is it is irrelevant as he wants out anyway ;)
 
Yes, you say that, but I genuinely feel that Everton is not to blame in this shermozzle.

Most of us L4s know that he's goosed some birds who are 'off-limits'....and the gangsters have given him an ultimatum.

You might pooh-pooh this as tabloid/rag speak, but Ross ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer (he thinks a logarithm is just a long turd); but he has 'stepped on toes' and .... (well you can join the dots)
 
Yes, you say that, but I genuinely feel that Everton is not to blame in this shermozzle.

Most of us L4s know that he's goosed some birds who are 'off-limits'....and the gangsters have given him an ultimatum.

You might pooh-pooh this as tabloid/rag speak, but Ross ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer (he thinks a logarithm is just a long turd); but he has 'stepped on toes' and .... (well you can join the dots)

Its the only scenario that makes any sense. Well, sort of sense.
 

Yes, you say that, but I genuinely feel that Everton is not to blame in this shermozzle.

Most of us L4s know that he's goosed some birds who are 'off-limits'....and the gangsters have given him an ultimatum.

You might pooh-pooh this as tabloid/rag speak, but Ross ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer (he thinks a logarithm is just a long turd); but he has 'stepped on toes' and .... (well you can join the dots)
Having no concept of Liverpool 'gangsters', is this a valid reason for moving on?. Couldn't a rich premier league player employ personal security to protect his, eh, person?
 
Having no concept of Liverpool 'gangsters', is this a valid reason for moving on?. Couldn't a rich premier league player employ personal security to protect his, eh, person?
I am, of age removed from the wherewithal of such provision...but it is very real according to my son's input. It is a different world out there now. I am glad I was a teenager in the 80's (when Everton was good at football)
 
So say you are right and Koeman finally improves his game, he still wants out anyway, no idea why the love in for a lad who is turning his back on his club at this stage of the clubs development.[/QUOTE]

A development that himself and Lukaku didnt want to be part of? Koeman is a quitter if things get rough he will walk
Im not so sure things are as rosy as most like to think, we made waves early on with the Lukaku money, apparently Lineker knew it was United 3 months earlier so negates the point of buying with our new wealth, things ground to a halt until Barklay sold to buy Sigurdsen
I bet Swansea are chomping at the bit for their fat check but we cant write it till Ross departs ......
 
I am, of age removed from the wherewithal of such provision...but it is very real according to my son's input. It is a different world out there now. I am glad I was a teenager in the 80's (when Everton was good at football)
Fair enough, I am just curious from a distance.

Personally, given the wealth and connections of an elite footballer, I would have thought they could find the wherewithal to live an interrupted life.

I really don't intend to make that sound as sinister as it may read. I'm thinking bodyguards etc, keep yourself away from unwanted attention and all that.
 

Fair enough, I am just curious from a distance.

Personally, given the wealth and connections of an elite footballer, I would have thought they could find the wherewithal to live an interrupted life.

I really don't intend to make that sound as sinister as it may read. I'm thinking bodyguards etc, keep yourself away from unwanted attention and all that.

They do. Gated secure communities, can live an hour away from Liverpool, escape everything. Not hard to do. Most professional footballers at the top level live in such places, especially the foreign imports.

If the rumours are true, Ross doesn't feel that's good enough.
 
..I'm not having all of this gangster stuff. I might be naive but I just think his ego has taken a bashing and he doesn't fancy playing for Koeman.

Regardless of the reason he wants out, build a bridge and get over it.

Who were the big ego according to McGeady I wondered? If some manager told you are the best midfielder in da world how big the ego can grow...
 

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