Round of 16

[Gwladys St. Glory]

Out of curiosity...what were they giving for odds tha England would go out in this round?

 

[Rita_Poon]

Out of curiosity...what were they giving for odds tha England would go out in this round?

1/5 to qualify past Slovakia. IIRC.

 

[Walken]

Goals involving multiple perfect touches are equally as impressive as volleys. The first touch sold the entire defence.

Controlling a ball along the ground a meter in front of you is nowhere near the level of difficulty as a volley across your body. It's hyperbolic nonsense.

 

[Billy Dean]

Just seen Guehi suspended for the match against the Swiss

Dunk for Guehi and Gallagher for Mainoo the only changes I’ll expect for the next game

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Controlling a ball along the ground a meter in front of you is nowhere near the level of difficulty as a volley across your body. It's hyperbolic nonsense.

Correct. Hence why I mentioned multiple touches, a ridiculous first touch followed by a great finish is not straightforward. Low league scores volleys. Not many low league players score that Rhodri goal.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Come on the Swiss.

Knife to a gun fight

 

[Walken]

Correct. Hence why I mentioned multiple touches, a ridiculous first touch followed by a great finish is not straightforward. Low league scores volleys. Not many low league players score that Rhodri goal.

An okay first touch and scuffed finish in loads of space, he made the space for himself but not worth creaming your kecks over

 

[Nymzee]

An okay first touch and scuffed finish in loads of space, he made the space for himself but not worth creaming your kecks over

Hmm.

 

[Walken]

Hmm.

It's a good goal, not that good though. Not completely convinced the first touch was deliberate.

 

[MikeH72]

They have a much better squad than they have had in previous tournaments and have had very favourable draws. He is better than hodgson, McClaren and Keegan though.

I’ve not really seen the Southgate acolytes address this point yet. Probably because they’ve got nothing to come back with. His record has been artificially airbrushed by several very fortunate tournament draws in succession.

Look at our group in 2014, there is no way Southgate gets us out of that. 2012 we had France in the group and then finalists Italy in the first knockout round. 2016 was a complete disaster, granted, that one had nothing to do with the draw. But every tournament Southgate has been involved in we’ve had huge slices of luck with the draw. 2018 we actually finished second in the group and STILL managed to be on the side of the draw with a load of dossers. There is nothing clever or strategic about that, that is pure luck.

 

[Nymzee]

It's a good goal, not that good though. Not completely convinced the first touch was deliberate.

You can not think it's brilliant but to call it only an okay first touch and a scuffed finish is mad disrespect.

(It was an intentional touch, I've watched him do the same move loads of times).

 

[Walken]

You can not think it's brilliant but to call it only an okay first touch and a scuffed finish is mad disrespect.

(It was an intentional touch, I've watched him do the same move loads of times).

It's a good goal, it is a typical deep midfielder first touch so well within his repertoire, and a slightly sciffed finish.

Not worth the 5 minutes of fawning that followed it on itv or kev making a case for it being worthy of van Basten praise.

Just my opinion.

 

[Nymzee]

It's a good goal, it is a typical deep midfielder first touch so well within his repertoire, and a slightly sciffed finish.

Not worth the 5 minutes of fawning that followed it on itv or kev making a case for it being worthy of van Basten praise.

Just my opinion.

Oh hang on, I came into this halfway through, you're talking about the Rodri goal aren't you

I thought you were slagging off the Olmo goal and showing Rodri's as a better version.

 

[Walken]

Oh hang on, I came into this halfway through, you're talking about the Rodri goal aren't you

I thought you were slagging off the Olmo goal and showing Rodri's as a better version.

Oh no mate, that was super working tight space. Also thought the Williams goal was one of the best assists you'll see

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

I’ve not really seen the Southgate acolytes address this point yet. Probably because they’ve got nothing to come back with. His record has been artificially airbrushed by several very fortunate tournament draws in succession.

Look at our group in 2014, there is no way Southgate gets us out of that. 2012 we had France in the group and then finalists Italy in the first knockout round. 2016 was a complete disaster, granted, that one had nothing to do with the draw. But every tournament Southgate has been involved in we’ve had huge slices of luck with the draw. 2018 we actually finished second in the group and STILL managed to be on the side of the draw with a load of dossers. There is nothing clever or strategic about that, that is pure luck.

2016 we had a midfield three of Dier, Dele and a past his best Rooney. Hart in goal (bang average), Smalling and Cahill (decent players but nothing special), Danny Rose (no explanation required). Sturridge played. I reckon the majority of our second XI gets in that team easily. It was a very poor squad.