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Utter Cad.
He's pointing out that the political system serves politicians, not the people. I can't for the life of me understand why that isn't being applauded.
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He's pointing out that the political system serves politicians, not the people. I can't for the life of me understand why that isn't being applauded.
davek
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Because he's a psuedo intellectual who's called for no one to vote...which will result in less people opposing the Tories at the next election because the people listening to him will be those who'd usually vote Labour and that will let in an even more draconian government next time around commuted to grinding millions into the dust.
At which point Mr Brand will be poolside in LA drinking champagne and having his toenails varnished readying himself to make his next *comical movie* before launching into his next political wheeze: Neo National Socialism and how Herr Hitler was a misunderstood genius.
Russell Brand has upset the cosy Westminster apple cart, pointing out that 'they are all the same', so what's the point in voting'. This has caused politicians and their hangers on a massive headache. Does Brand have a point ? The Tories have been banging on blaming those on benefits for some of the problems in the country. What is the responsible from Labour? Rachel Reeves has said, 'Labour will be tougher than the Tories when it comes to slashing the benefits bill, Rachel Reeves, the new shadow work and pensions secretary, has insisted in her first interview since winning promotion in Ed Miliband's frontbench reshuffle'.
Sounds the same to me. What worries the political class is that Brand gets a hearing from the younger generation, who feel 'they are all the same'. Brands point about 'being the good guy when he asks like a drug fueled buffoon, but the 'bad guy' when he criticises the tweedle de tweedle dumb there 'all the same' is very profound. The establishment love to 'promote' celebrities but the moment they go off script they get castigated.
The same happened with John Lennon. Whilst he was drug induced and saying nothing he was tolerated but the moment he steps back into the limelight with something to say i.e against Reagan and the US's nuclear proliferation, then loads of mud was flung at him.
Band has posed many questions and the political class are found wanting in answering them.
Sounds the same to me. What worries the political class is that Brand gets a hearing from the younger generation, who feel 'they are all the same'. Brands point about 'being the good guy when he asks like a drug fueled buffoon, but the 'bad guy' when he criticises the tweedle de tweedle dumb there 'all the same' is very profound. The establishment love to 'promote' celebrities but the moment they go off script they get castigated.
The same happened with John Lennon. Whilst he was drug induced and saying nothing he was tolerated but the moment he steps back into the limelight with something to say i.e against Reagan and the US's nuclear proliferation, then loads of mud was flung at him.
Band has posed many questions and the political class are found wanting in answering them.
It'd be something if Brand had some answers to his own questions.
Davek and Bruce have answered why, but just to add, it doesn't deserve to be applauded because a lot of people already feel this way and have done for some time. I'd be applauding him if he was suggesting an actual answer to these issues, but he's not - instead, he's growing his own celebrity and suggesting nothing of substance whilst doing so.
The only people he'll be applauded by are those without the imagination to envisage a better place for the world and who are solely content with moaning about how it currently is. It's the laziest possible type of anarchy; moaning about the obvious for the sheer sake of moaning.
'In the general scheme of things, the crumbling economy, the savaged environment, the treacherous, inept, deceitful politicians that govern us, the corrupt corporations that exploit us, it might not seem like a big deal'. About the Sun on Sunday and him supposedly being unfaithful. What Brand has done is pose questions and observations about this country and those that govern and those that exploit people.
It seems to me that Brand wants people to engage in the discussion about what should be done, and not prescribe that this and that needs to happen.
It seems to me that Brand wants people to engage in the discussion about what should be done, and not prescribe that this and that needs to happen.
That may be acceptable on a systemic level, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything about those issues on an individual level either. I mean how much co2 did he generate from his world tour?
Say what you like about Bono, but at least he's putting actions behind his convictions. Likewise the likes of Bill Gates. Brand isn't doing anything except talk a lot.
Say what you like about Bono, but at least he's putting actions behind his convictions. Likewise the likes of Bill Gates. Brand isn't doing anything except talk a lot.
Then what he's doing is utterly pointless then, isn't it? If he can't come up with a semblance of a solution, he's an utter whopper to expect other people to do so. If he's going to try and "start" a discussion (although he hasn't), then he should be prepared to actually be involved in the bloody thing!
If he's going to say the economy has crumbled, the environment is savaged, the politicians are treacherousm, the corporations are exploitative etc. then he'd do well to have both a reason for why that is and a proposed solution. That's how activism works.
Otherwise, he's no different to a lunatic on a street corner wearing a sign saying "THE WORLD WILL END", as he shares the same way of life - loudly shouting about something without explaining why it's happened or proposing a way to change it.
As I said to Paxman at the time "I can't conjure up a global Utopia right now in this hotel room". Obviously that's not my job and it doesn't need to be, we have brilliant thinkers and organisations and no one needs to cook up an egalitarian Shangri-La on their todd; we can all do it together.
Brand has a point about 'The less privileged among us are already living in the apocalypse, the thousands of street sleepers in our country, the refugees and the exploited underclass across our planet daily confront what we would regard as the end of the world. No money, no home, no friends, no support, no hand of friendship reaching out, just acculturated and inculcated condemnation'.
The discussion that Brand has opened up has terrified those that rule the country. The younger generation that have not seen any great benefits from the system are engaging in such a debate and asking questions. It is debate/discussion/talk that can cause people to then want to change the things that are not quite right.
Brand has a point about 'The less privileged among us are already living in the apocalypse, the thousands of street sleepers in our country, the refugees and the exploited underclass across our planet daily confront what we would regard as the end of the world. No money, no home, no friends, no support, no hand of friendship reaching out, just acculturated and inculcated condemnation'.
The discussion that Brand has opened up has terrified those that rule the country. The younger generation that have not seen any great benefits from the system are engaging in such a debate and asking questions. It is debate/discussion/talk that can cause people to then want to change the things that are not quite right.
Mrk
Player Valuation: £40m
His facade would be more believable if he wasn't full of contradictions, such as denouncing capitalism while simultaneously flogging his tour, DVD's and merchandise. I guess it's very easy to complain about capitalism when you've already benefited to the tune of several million pounds from... capitalism.
On his complaints about the 'establishment', as Tubey rightly says, he's saying nothing people haven't said a thousand times before.
Rebel against the establishment, eh, Russell?
On his complaints about the 'establishment', as Tubey rightly says, he's saying nothing people haven't said a thousand times before.
Rebel against the establishment, eh, Russell?
Mrk
Player Valuation: £40m
Yes, a stereotypical left-wing 'comedian' denouncing the establishment has terrified the establishment - because that's never happened before. In reality, nobody within Westminster gives a **** what he says and it certainly hasn't terrified anybody. What has happened since he said it? Nothing, absolutely bloody nothing.
Mrk
Player Valuation: £40m
Correct, and I suspect he's sold a few more DVD's and tickets for his tour thanks to the exposure he had. Thinking about it, he should be the poster boy for capitalism.
Because Radio 4 exists to sell itself to as many listeners as possible. Droves of foolish people are thinking he's saying something "new", so Radio 4 has to cater to those listeners, as do the rest of the media. The more people Brand dupes, the more attention the media have to give him, and the more DVD sales and tour tickets he sells.
In short, he's the ultimate capitalist - benefiting from capitalism via moaning about capitalism, exploiting the very people he's standing up for.
Genius really.
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