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Russia / Everton

Are we in trouble?


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Also if you believe Labour then we have not actually "sanctioned" anyone, more a case of giving them a month to get out of the uk basically.

Yes Starmer is a complete moron.

He recently described bloody Sunday as just happening recently. Like some sleet or something. It just magically happened, in a benign way when it's the British.

He lives in cloud cuckoo land him.
 
Well if he means USM, Megafon and Yota, he can forget it.

I'm not so sure mate. The conflict will come to a resolution at some point. I'm not sure why we have to shoot ourselves in the foot while most other club accept money from war mongering countries.
 

It’s quite possible we could have Russian sponsors poor faith actors to look after the interests of our funding and the glorious land of Mother Russia, glory be upon thee.

In the interests of transparency feel free to tag any known saboteurs you believe are doing this.
@Joey66.
 
Best case scenario is he has a Chinese investor ready to invest.

The club have bottled it though. Which is typical of them really.

I'm not sure we can lay that wholly at their door, as much as it pains me to say so.

This was going to happen to any club with ties to a Russian oligarch and the political pressure is enormous. What I have to say though is that there are some fans who seem to activley want this to happen out of some belief its 'right' and / or we can do better. That's amazing to me. We cant recover this ground at all. There will be no investors touching this club with a barge pole. I dont think that's registering at all.

My opposition to Moshiri has been on the basis of him being an incompetent proxy who Usmanov should replace, not in wanting the cash gone.
 
Yes those 2 options really. The suspension makes me think they brazen it out. I dont see the war lasting a long time. Once the war ends, whichever way it does, the next big issue comes in.

Dont think for 1 moment the pearl clutchers really care about this issue. Next month they'll be onto their next issue.

If they sell, I suspect it might be to a Chinese investor. Russia and China are getting closer. I suspect Oligarchs just take their assets their. The UK housing prices drop. We all lose out, and China gains. But a few tub thumpers get to feel self important.

Richard Keys mentioned Everton being touted around Qatar a few weeks back which Moshiri stated was untrue.

Throw in Cahill who has links to Qatar am I putting 2+2 together and getting 5?

Unless we fall into Chinese Govt or Middle Eastern Royal Family ownership little to nothing changes for us long term.

If some Americans come on board that would finish us off well and truly.
 
I'm not sure we can lay that wholly at their door, as much as it pains me to say so.

This was going to happen to any club with ties to a Russian oligarch and the political pressure is enormous. What I have to say though is that there are some fans who seem to activley want this to happen out of some belief its 'right' and / or we can do better. That's amazing to me. We cant recover this ground at all. There will be no investors touching this club with a barge pole. I dont think that's registering at all.

My opposition to Moshiri has been on the basis of him being an incompetent proxy who Usmanov should replace, not in wanting the cash gone.
Because it’s utter nonsense Dave, we play in one of the most viewed leagues in World football, anyone worth their salt would kill to invest in a team in this league
 
I'm not sure we can lay that wholly at their door, as much as it pains me to say so.

This was going to happen to any club with ties to a Russian oligarch and the political pressure is enormous. What I have to say though is that there are some fans who seem to activley want this to happen out of some belief its 'right' and / or we can do better. That's amazing to me. We cant recover this ground at all. There will be no investors touching this club with a barge pole. I dont think that's registering at all.

My opposition to Moshiri has been on the basis of him being an incompetent proxy who Usmanov should replace, not in wanting the cash gone.

I have sympathy with the fans as I think for the most part it's ignorant but well intentioned. It won't made a blind bit of difference. We have got rid of a Russian company, and guess what? Russian keep attacking Ukraine, as independent businesses don't invade countries. Politicians and armed generals do.

I wanted to hope better from the club. But the board is useless. They have a responsibility to do the best for the club. That means sometimes avoiding the hypocritical rhetoric of the rancid mob that gets built up, and focusing on fundamentals. They have failed spectacularly of that.

A proper CEO does not suspend important commercial deals, on evidence that is a best contradictory.
 

Richard Keys mentioned Everton being touted around Qatar a few weeks back which Moshiri stated was untrue.

Throw in Cahill who has links to Qatar am I putting 2+2 together and getting 5?

Unless we fall into Chinese Govt or Middle Eastern Royal Family ownership little to nothing changes for us long term.

If some Americans come on board that would finish us off well and truly.

Depends which American imvestors.

Id imagine Moshiri and Usmanov will know some wealthy individuals, so may be calling in some favours.
 
Because it’s utter nonsense Dave, we play in one of the most viewed leagues in World football, anyone worth their salt would kill to invest in a team in this league

Depends what their aim is though long term.

Moshiri for all his ills genuinely wants a go at things and will throw big money into investment on and off the field.

For one Moshiri you can find many owners like Mike Ashley, Stan Kroenke, Glazers etc who just want to spend the bare minimum, dont even put a lick of new paint on their stadiums and sell for a profit 5-10 years down the line.

Be careful what you wish for Springs to mind.
 
Because it’s utter nonsense Dave, we play in one of the most viewed leagues in World football, anyone worth their salt would kill to invest in a team in this league
We are a basket case that Moshiri bought at a cut price...we've heaped more debt on, and the prospect of having to complete a £600M stadium is enough to have any investor running very fast in the otherr direction.

Utterly laughable that people believe we'll get better than the Usmanov cash backing.

We're in for years in the wilderness, and more than likely we'll be relegated.
 
We are a basket case that Moshiri bought at a cut price...we've heaped more debt on, and the prospect of having to complete a £600M stadium is enough to have any investor running very fast in the otherr direction.

Utterly laughable that people believe we'll get better than the Usmanov cash backing.

We're in for years in the wilderness, and more than likely we'll be relegated.
Yup. I don't think people fully realise the potential consequences of what has just happened. Sheffield Wednesday, Derby County, Sunderland...Everton. If ever we could do with a "Good ebenig, Jim" moment from "Farhad", then now is probably that time...
 
I have sympathy with the fans as I think for the most part it's ignorant but well intentioned. It won't made a blind bit of difference. We have got rid of a Russian company, and guess what? Russian keep attacking Ukraine, as independent businesses don't invade countries. Politicians and armed generals do.

I wanted to hope better from the club. But the board is useless. They have a responsibility to do the best for the club. That means sometimes avoiding the hypocritical rhetoric of the rancid mob that gets built up, and focusing on fundamentals. They have failed spectacularly of that.

A proper CEO does not suspend important commercial deals, on evidence that is a best contradictory.
I echo those thoughts.

We are going to pay a huge price - we'll be THE organisational casualty in the world of sport.

The club in the shape of Kenwright are responsible for choosing a Putin supporting oligarch in the first place, of course. But just about any other turn of events could have left us vulnerable if they'd attracted Chinese or Sheik cash.

As said, my concern is that there's some of our fans who think this is just an obstruction we can swerve around when it's quite obvious we've fallen down a huge sink hole.

I said earlier that some are dazed by all this and might believe it cant be that bad. But it is.
 

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