Sam Allardyce V Frank Lampard

[Toff33Blues99]

Blah blah Sam is fat, blah blah Frank looks great and speaks a good game.
Fact is Sam is an infinitely better than cockanee Frank, 1 of the worst decision of many in recent memory was sacking him for the useless Silva

 

[banno]

@chicoazul it's official.

Net spend defence!!!!

Welcome to BAWK

When a manager is restricted by FFP then net spend is a mitigating circumstance as he started with nowt. Sell to buy makes net spend relevant and is a good argument. Allardyce didn't have the FFP problem but in the long term added to the problem especially with Tosun

 

[4737carlin]

4 points off the relegation zone with 5 games left is the definition of a real battle

Not as much as the danger Frank put us in and Sam didn't

 

[4737carlin]

Here’s a straight fact for you

Moyes 2003/04 last 6 games - 2 points losing last 4

Lampard 2021/22 last 6 games - 10 points losing 2

You my friend are an utter vermin with loyalty to people past and present that frankly don’t deserve it

So you agree then, Frank.put us in the drop zone, let's hope he doesn't do it again, but the early signs are not good.

I knew Sam did a good job, but I hadn't realised he did a much better job then Frank, which is the point of the thread

 

[4737carlin]

In 2010 for example we were 16th by 15 games on 16 points and just been smashed at home 4.1 by West Brom.

We finished 7th.

There was a bit of trust knowing what Moyes does though.

That's gone out the window since he left though.

In the Moshiri era no manager has come close to being as good as Moyes

 

[Bluelenny1984]

Glum place this forum, swings wildly depending on results.

 

[banno]

In the Moshiri era no manager has come close to being as good as Moyes

He did have about 11 seasons. A hot and cold manager. Would have you safe from relegation but not really threaten up top. Bottler of the 1st degree and loved dissing Everton to make himself seem like a messiah. We grew bored of him...well I did.

 

[4737carlin]

Glum place this forum, swings wildly depending on results.

To be honest mate, I think it's just a good place to let off steam, get your football frustration off your chest and have a laugh with fellow blooos

 

[toffeemeister77]

When a manager is restricted by FFP then net spend is a mitigating circumstance as he started with nowt. Sell to buy makes net spend relevant and is a good argument. Allardyce didn't have the FFP problem but in the long term added to the problem especially with Tosun

Walcott and Tosun cost £47 million in transfer fees and sold for £0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Both players on over £100k a week to . You're spot on it deffo contributed to our current FFP situation.

 

[BlueStevie35]

So you agree then, Frank.put us in the drop zone, let's hope he doesn't do it again, but the early signs are not good.

I knew Sam did a good job, but I hadn't realised he did a much better job then Frank, which is the point of the thread

You’re an utter creep, no blue

 

[4737carlin]

He did have about 11 seasons. A hot and cold manager. Would have you safe from relegation but not really threaten up top. Bottler of the 1st degree and loved dissing Everton to make himself seem like a messiah. We grew bored of him...well I did.

Yeah I was glad when he went, I think looking back now we did have some good times, understandably we wanted a bit more though, which Moshiri has been unable to deliver

 

[nsno-chris]

Not as much as the danger Frank put us in and Sam didn't

So thanks for admitting you were wrong.

Took you a while, as usual, to go around the houses to be proven that you chatter utter wham

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Anyone who supports Allardyce just doesn’t understand what Everton is they never have and probably never will.
Allardyce is the living embodiment of what Everton should never be, he is the Anti- Everton to be spurned , reviled and cast out at every opportunity.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Anyone who supports Allardyce just doesn’t understand what Everton is they never have and probably never will.
Allardyce is the living embodiment of what Everton should never be, he is the Anti- Everton to be spurned , reviled and cast out at every opportunity.

This, although wouldn't go to that extreme. I think we should be able to try something else, but clearly he liked rubbing us the wrong way and if you don't take the fans with you then you better be good.

The thing about Sam's tenure was apart from the very early bounce it was pretty awful. After we saw off any chance of relegation we could have at least tried to be a bit more progressive but we were having less shots per game than now.

We have to stop thinking we can replace x for y and suddenly we'll be brilliant, it obviously doesn't work as fans were turning on Ancelotti in the end. Give one person time to do something, Frank may not be THE one but we might have an identity as a club by the time he leaves. Pretty sure if we keep swapping managers we will go down.

 

[4737carlin]

This, although wouldn't go to that extreme. I think we should be able to try something else, but clearly he liked rubbing us the wrong way and if you don't take the fans with you then you better be good.

The thing about Sam's tenure was apart from the very early bounce it was pretty awful. After we saw off any chance of relegation we could have at least tried to be a bit more progressive but we were having less shots per game than now.

We have to stop thinking we can replace x for y and suddenly we'll be brilliant, it obviously doesn't work as fans were turning on Ancelotti in the end. Give one person time to do something, Frank may not be THE one but we might have an identity as a club by the time he leaves. Pretty sure if we keep swapping managers we will go down.

Problem is it wasn't him not taking the fans with him, we had this delusion we were too good for him, which was nonsense, we had fans against him from the start, it was pathetic.
If you can't support the Everton manager you can't support Everton.