Sam Allardyce

[Jadubsee]

He’s finished 6th and 7th with Bolton.

Indeed, 8th, 6th, 8th and 7th in the prem between 2003 and 2007 in fact, which is much better than I remembered.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I surf the emotions, i feed off them. I do enjoy people losing there head though

@matty1878 how are you doing sir?? If Everton win on Sunday i expect you to boarding the Big Sam Hype Train which will be stopping at the following destinations

Brilliant street
English manager is what we needed all along circus
He was proved me wrong central
Sammy Lee and Shakespear are great cross

Then to complete our journey we will change trains and stop at the next stations

He hasn't got a clue exchange
Steve Walsh is a fraud Avenue
We need a foreign manager street
Just sack the lot of them cross

That last destination is where you’ll generally find me, it’s my spiritual home and where I’m happiest.

 

[Goat]

Indeed, 8th, 6th, 8th and 7th in the prem between 2003 and 2007 in fact, which is much better than I remembered.

He resigned from Bolton in his last season when they were 5th with 2 games to play.

Hes improved most teams hes managed and most of the teams, once hes left, they have dropped like a stone, mainly due to him taking them to places they really didnt belong.

Most people and im as guilty as most have this idea that hes just a relegation saver, but hes never had a job like this in his career, a club with ambition to do more than just survive, a club with vast resources off the pitch and the resources to spend on players.

 

[Stanley Parker]

All teams have to try to grind out results. The Premiership is so competitive there is nothing easy.
The last two games for Man City are proof of that. They had two extremely difficult games against opposition that were expected to be beaten easily by City.

I think Sam Allyrdyce has a challenge at Everton that he hasn't faced before.
A big club with lots of ambition and it would appear transfer funds available to sign most players if he chooses to do so. We must also add a squad of talented but underperforming players that are low on confidence.

Half of the challenge is easy for Sam, he has done it so often, organise the team, become defensively sound and soon morale and confidence rises.

The half that is the challenge at Everton is that becoming safe is not good enough, in fact it is probably a sackable position.
Sam has to get us to the top seven at least before the end of season 2018/2019 and maybe even challenging for a top four spot by then or at the very least be in a position to strike for that top four spot.
He has to have a team/squad that looks capable and balanced to challenge at that level.
If he can , he stays,...if not he will almost definitely be gone.
I think he knows very well what is needed of him.

Some teams - whatever their level - seek to grind out results. Mourinho is prepared to, and he is capable of it too. And it has usually been the pattern for teams managed by Pulis.

But Manchester City are hardly grinding out results! They may have had to work very hard for some recent victories, but they have have achieved them without abandoning their attacking style.

Liverpool are not grinding out results either - they are playing with ridiculous abandon. And I would say that Watford are not grinding out results either. Burnley have become more expansive this season, and their clash with Watford on Saturday should be very interesting.

But if Allardyce is here as a short-term manager, then he is not likely to be given the opportunity to sign superstars. That will have to wait for the next phase of our recovery.

The top six teams are financially well ahead of the pack. Other teams on a good run may challenge them - just as we did last season and Burnley are doing this season. But there is no sign of the top six becoming the top seven.

 

[COYBL25]

I surf the emotions, i feed off them. I do enjoy people losing there head though

@matty1878 how are you doing sir?? If Everton win on Sunday i expect you to boarding the Big Sam Hype Train which will be stopping at the following destinations

Brilliant street
English manager is what we needed all along circus
He was proved me wrong central
Sammy Lee and Shakespear are great cross

Then to complete our journey we will change trains and stop at the next stations

He hasn't got a clue exchange
Steve Walsh is a fraud Avenue
We need a foreign manager street
Just sack the lot of them cross

lol

 

[davek]

Not disagreeing with what you say I just think it’s unfair that after the last two managers have brought the ‘R’ word back into Evertonian vocabulary, this one has been here one game and people are already moaning about a glass ceiling.

It’s ridiculous. There’s a set of fans that care more about other fans and the media’s perception of us than the reality of our results. They’d rather follow Martinez Fonseca or Silva into a relegation battle than admit Moyes did well getting consistent top 7 finishes. If Allardyce comes 7-9th there’ll be nothing but ‘glass ceiling, limited etc etc.’ If we got a manager in with a reputation for decent football they invent the argument that they have the skills to break the ceiling the problem is the players won’t play for them.

Allardyce will live or die on his results. Why some fans are already pre arming their arguments even if he’s successful is beyond me.

If he gets top 7 and a cup run after the hospital pass he was given no on here should be complaining at all.

I wont turn up my nose at a 7th-9th spot. I just dont think he's a manager capable of getting us to that next level. His whole career...and it's a long one in the PL...screams that to be the probable outcome.

He is what he is: a manager who'll make his teams hold onto points and maintain a final position above the relegation zone. A bottom half manager if ever there was one.

 

[Goat]

I wont turn up my nose at a 7th-9th spot. I just dont think he's a manager capable of getting us to that next level. His whole career...and it's a long one in the PL...screams that to be the probable outcome.

He is what he is: a manager who'll make his teams hold onto points and maintain a final position above the relegation zone. A bottom half manager if ever there was one.

WRONG

 

[davek]

Maybe let's give him an opportunity to show us what he can do at a bigger club with better players. His remit with most clubs is keep us safe on minimum money. His remit here is 'show us what you can do'. With Bolton he built a good team over the years and made them a stable Premier League club, they didn't do too good after he left did they.

He's always done what was expected of him, here he has a chance to prove people wrong.

Also, his man management skills are just what is needed at the minute.

He's put his neck out and said pushing for a European spot is the objective, which I've already commended.

He has the chance to do that here and if he takes it then no one can argue with that. I just dont see him having the guile to have a team creating chances consistently enough to make it happen.

We'll see. But his record is less than great and we need not to run away with some fanciful notion that BS + a bit of cash = great PL position. It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of outlook and method.

 

[Goat]

He's put his neck out and said pushing for a European spot is the objective, which I've already commended.

He has the chance to do that here and if he takes it then no one can argue with that. I just dont see him having the guile to have a team creating chances consistently enough to make it happen.

We'll see. But his record is less than great and we need not to run away with some fanciful notion that BS + a bit of cash = great PL position. It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of outlook and method.

WRONG

 

[davek]

We as a fanbase can't be level headed. It's either hyperbole or downright nastiness from us.

We go from one extreme to another.

Exactly.

The mood seems to have gone in one week from "FFS what have we got that dinosaur in for?" to "BS can make a name for himself here. His progressive football dimensions are much maligned".

 

[Lanolin]

This was a move explained to us by Allardyce himself post match in an effort to explain how we won the game.

In reality I'm not sure we saw a vastly different game out of Siggurdson and Lennon in the second half that we didn't see in the first.

Worth noting that on the official 'chalkboards' for the game, which highlight each time a player does something of note (pass/tackle/shot etc) Sigurdsson has 12 entries inside our half - 10 in the first half and 2 in the second - while Lennon has 7 - 4 first half and 3 second - so Sam's explanation doesn't really seem to tally up with what actually happened on the pitch. Weird that.

I've never hidden that I'm not a fan of Allardyce, either as a man or a manager, but while he's here he'll have my support. Just wish he could be less of an obnoxious prat really, because I don't enjoy cringing when the Everton manager speaks.

 

[davek]

WRONG

Wrong is your middle name lad.

 

[maccavennie]

Exactly.

The mood seems to have gone in one week from "FFS what have we got that dinosaur in for?" to "BS can make a name for himself here. His progressive football dimensions are much maligned".

I'm still at the FFS stage for what it's worth mate

 

[Goat]

Exactly.

The mood seems to have gone in one week from "FFS what have we got that dinosaur in for?" to "BS can make a name for himself here. His progressive football dimensions are much maligned".

Hes the most forward thinking manager in the league, his prep work leaves nothing to chance, im going to enjoy this battle Dave, this 1 I win, like the last 3!!!!!

 

[ProZ]

Hes the most forward thinking manager in the league, his prep work leaves nothing to chance, im going to enjoy this battle Dave, this 1 I win, like the last 3!!!!!

Crikey, that’s bold like hehe

But have a bloody like.