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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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In one sense Sam has been a success. He's done what was asked of him and secured our status in the prem, I don't think there was much more required. I don't want him at the club beyond this season and it seems the owners feel the same way, he talks out of his hat but he's not the only one and it's time we showed a bit of class and left him to end his time with us with some degree of dignity and appreciate the fact he saved our bacon.
Look all around my eyes not into my eyes andddddd sleep
 
the way the team was performing we looked almost certain to go down.
Don't agree with this part of your post mate. I don't think we were looking certain to go down at all. I agree we were awful, but it was 3 and a half months into a 9 month season and there were plenty around us equally as bad or worse.

There is little difference in the pre and post Allardyce results (27 from 20 and 15 from 14) and the performances are certainly no better. Arguably the performances are worse and that's with the benefit of having Coleman back and bringing in 2 decent quality attacking players.
 
How many points above the bottom 3 now? We were leaking goals and in free fall and many of us genuinely feared we would be scrapping for the rest of the season. To suggest we weren't in peril is just a denial to feed your own prejudice, by all means dislike Sam and his cronies but don't try to pretend he hasn't done the job he was brought in for. He will be gone and that's what we all want, but a bit of balance wouldn't go amiss and just because he behaves like a classless cock at times doesn't mean that we should stoop to his level.

14 points above the bottom three now. Having spent £50m in January.

He has beaten the teams outside the top 6 at home. At the cost of playing his brand of anti-football were we go 5 games with 3 shots on target and setting a league record for the lowest amount of posession twice.

We were never in danger. No opinion or prejudice about it. It felt like we were because we're not used to being down there.

If one win in December takes you 5 points clear and into mid-table then you're not in peril. Not to mention how bad the teams below us all are. We've been dreadful this season and are still the 9th best team.

He hasn't done a tap. Given what he's had at his disposal and where we were when he took over (where we actually were, not where he says we were) he's actually done a pretty bad job. A competant manager would have us 7th right now and looking at Arsenal.
 
14 points above the bottom three now. Having spent £50m in January.

He has beaten the teams outside the top 6 at home. At the cost of playing his brand of anti-football were we go 5 games with 3 shots on target and setting a league record for the lowest amount of posession twice.

We were never in danger. No opinion or prejudice about it. It felt like we were because we're not used to being down there.

If one win in December takes you 5 points clear and into mid-table then you're not in peril. Not to mention how bad the teams below us all are. We've been dreadful this season and are still the 9th best team.

He hasn't done a tap. Given what he's had at his disposal and where we were when he took over (where we actually were, not where he says we were) he's actually done a pretty bad job. A competant manager would have us 7th right now and looking at Arsenal.

Which particular 'competent manager' fits your totally made up slant on the world? You need to realise that I'm not an apologist for Sam, he's not for us and I want him gone but he did the job he was required to do and to claim that anyone could've done the same is pure conjecture, it's meaningless, revisionist bull.
 
I wanted him in and there's a bit of revisionism going on but we probably weren't in as much trouble as we thought initially, given our relatively difficult start.

However the football is not only worse than I thought it would be but worse than I thought it could be.
 

Which particular 'competent manager' fits your totally made up slant on the world? You need to realise that I'm not an apologist for Sam, he's not for us and I want him gone but he did the job he was required to do and to claim that anyone could've done the same is pure conjecture, it's meaningless, revisionist bull.

Koeman for a kick off. If he'd have had the January window to correct the glaring holes in the squad like Scam had he'd have at least done the same job.
 
Koeman for a kick off. If he'd have had the January window to correct the glaring holes in the squad like Scam had he'd have at least done the same job.

Agreed.

he had a bad start in his second season with Southampton.

However, he was also a bit of a dour turd so NEA he got the boot.
 
Holy moly: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...sam-allardyce-defiantly-insists-been-14533228

And when asked what would make for a successful first season at Goodison under his watch, Allardyce said: “I’ve already done it. It’s already been done. It was all about relegation when I got here.

“Now yes, we want to finish as high as we can, but what has been achieved is exactly what we needed to do.

“What I’m glad to say is what the players have done, is that they’ve done it far more than anybody else below us, because all those teams are struggling.

“When we had teams like Southampton and West Brom above us when I joined - look where they are and look where we are.”
 

Holy moly: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...sam-allardyce-defiantly-insists-been-14533228

And when asked what would make for a successful first season at Goodison under his watch, Allardyce said: “I’ve already done it. It’s already been done. It was all about relegation when I got here.

“Now yes, we want to finish as high as we can, but what has been achieved is exactly what we needed to do.

“What I’m glad to say is what the players have done, is that they’ve done it far more than anybody else below us, because all those teams are struggling.

“When we had teams like Southampton and West Brom above us when I joined - look where they are and look where we are.”
 
Holy moly: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...sam-allardyce-defiantly-insists-been-14533228

And when asked what would make for a successful first season at Goodison under his watch, Allardyce said: “I’ve already done it. It’s already been done. It was all about relegation when I got here.

“Now yes, we want to finish as high as we can, but what has been achieved is exactly what we needed to do.

“What I’m glad to say is what the players have done, is that they’ve done it far more than anybody else below us, because all those teams are struggling.

“When we had teams like Southampton and West Brom above us when I joined - look where they are and look where we are.”
We are not struggling .....lol
 

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