Sam Allardyce

[Gladystweet]

Marsian mate.

Martian mate.

 

[jaycee]

He also did well with reviving Defoe's career, the guy was playing in the MLS a few seasons ago and all the common wisdom at the time was that Defoe was finished at top level football. You've gotta Allardyce a bit of credit for saving Sunderland from the brink. He also made shrewd signings last season at Palace with Milivojevic and Sakho, both of whom have done great. He's not just a manager stuck in the past.

Okay I know he is NEVER going to be a Guardiola, but I think some of the football at previous clubs has been a lot better than people give him credit for, when given a chance. I admit, the football hasn't been great for Everton so far, but he has got results and you do look a lot more solid unit than you did under Koeman and Unsworth, and sorting that out had to be the first priority. Otherwise, this season could have a bigger disaster than any of you ever imagined. I support the mighty Orient btw, so you think you've got it bad!

Sakho I have never rated,and I honestly dont think we wre under threat of being relegated but each has their own opinion on that,sympathies for supporting the Os I watched a documentary on them "riots and relegation" was an interesting view on the plight of the club

 

[NeutralPie]

Sakho I have never rated,and I honestly dont think we wre under threat of being relegated but each has their own opinion on that,sympathies for supporting the Os I watched a documentary on them "riots and relegation" was an interesting view on the plight of the club

We've got rid of our owner now since that documentary, Francesco Becchetti, has to be one of the worst in history, corrupt, wanted for embezzlement, tax evasion, fraud and god knows what else in Albania, very almost ran us into the ground in just 3 years. From league 1 to non-league, and went through about 13 managers. Some of the stories coming out of the club were unbelievable. Hopefully be back in the football league within a couple of years, but you never really know with Orient!

 

[LocalNative]

I believe per Talksport BFS claimed his time at Everton has been a success!!!!!!

He is a pathetic cretin. There is a belief that there is life on Mars, it's true we've got a Marian in charge.

Marsian mate.

Martian, boys.

 

[blulouie]

Martian, boys.

 

[jaycee]

We've got rid of our owner now since that documentary, Francesco Becchetti, has to be one of the worst in history, corrupt, wanted for embezzlement, tax evasion, fraud and god knows what else in Albania, very almost ran us into the ground in just 3 years. From league 1 to non-league, and went through about 13 managers. Some of the stories coming out of the club were unbelievable. Hopefully be back in the football league within a couple of years, but you never really know with Orient!

Seems like the fit and proper ownership test doesnt have much affect looking at a few owners in the lower leagues,I went to an Orient match years ago when they played Wrexham in a play off was a decent day out,good luck for the future

 

[RomanReigns]

if he doesn't go I am going to create the I hate sam allardyce club

 

[COYBL25]

Cards on the table here, I'm not an Everton fan, first post on this board and I was just dropping by to see what real Everton fans were thinking about Sam Allardyce.

And I gotta say, I'm a little surprised, I knew there would be some negativity, I didn't think it was gonna be this bad though!

Of course it is your right to hound out any manager you like, but I dunno, I think he has done a decent job so far from where I'm sitting. I'm not really sure where you expected to be after 5 months?

I get it though, the football hasn't been great, results have been mixed, but with all due respect, I don't think anyone was going to come in and have you playing like Barcelona. And if you look at the table since the day he was appointed on November 30th, Everton are actually joint 6th with Burnley on points (with Arsenal down to 8th). That's not bad going considering the mess you were in before he arrived.

And Allardyce has actually got a decent track record in the transfer market in his past, and got the best out of some very good players like Jay-Jay Okocha, Djorkaeff, Campo, Zaha, he performed an absolute miracle at Sunderland 2 years ago (look at where they are now), got some great results at Palace last year, I just don't think he is as rubbish as some of you think.

It was only a couple of years ago, you guys wanted Mourinho in charge, and he's spent £400m since and is still playing turgid football.

If it were Mourinho or Simeone appointed instead of Sam Allardyce, and they had got exactly the same results and exactly the same performances, I think you guys would be giving them the benefit of the doubt, in fact you would be looking at next season full of optimism.


And I actually think Allardyce will be in charge next season, you look at it from the owners point of view, rightly or wrongly are you really going to risk your investment in bringing in a new guy and having the struggles start all over again next season?

So really, you have a choice, hound the guy out, and you will probably succeed in getting him out next season as I think it would be difficult for anyone to do their job properly with that kind of negativity going on, but you would be sabotaging yourselves, or try and get behind him (albeit through gritted teeth)... I think you will push on next year if he is given support.

Anyway, I think Everton are a great traditional club with great fans, I always look out for your results and try and watch you on TV, & wish you all the best for next season.

(I realise I'm probably going to get some abuse for this post, that's cool, I know what is like when you've made your mind up that someone is rubbish, and almost nothing short of miracles can change your mind, but I just don't think he is as bad a manager as some of you think).

Welcome back @chicoazul

 

[Steve Wigan]

Why would Moshiri want to give Allardyce a budget in the summer to rebuild the squad when he had no intention of keeping him beyond Christmas and the new man might not be having the players he spent the summer bringing in?

That makes zero sense from either angle, football or business.

Its just a theory ...just trying to get into Moshs head. I suspect that after his initial misplaced enthusiasm for Koeman etc he has become determined to make 'careful' appointments,and he will think that SAm has been a success within his brief. Do not be surprised to see Sam here at the start of next season,and if results go well he could even see out his contract.SAm could actually go at any time from now until the end of next season...it depends on Mosh.

 

[NeutralPie]

Seems like the fit and proper ownership test doesnt have much affect looking at a few owners in the lower leagues,I went to an Orient match years ago when they played Wrexham in a play off was a decent day out,good luck for the future

That does take me back, I was at Brisbane Road for the 2nd leg, the ground has changed a lot since those days.

And, yeah, short of genocide, I honestly don't know how bad you would have to be to fail the 'fit and proper ownership test'. Things were looking a bit ropey for us again this year, could have gone down again, but we appointed Justin Edinburgh as manager and he seems to have steadied the ship, and hopefully can push on next year.

Good luck to you guys too next season (with or without Big Sam... I honestly think he'll surprise a few people though next year... if he's still there!).

 

[Death]

I hate what cliche we have become. A midtable club that hates it's BFS.

 

[everton1953]

if he doesn't go I am going to create the I hate sam allardyce club

Change the club title to "I don't want Sam at Everton Club" and I will join. A club containing people who say they hate anyone is not a place to be near. I certainly don't hate him or anyone else. (I hate LFC but that is an institution).

 

[Cork Evertonian]

I heard off someone at work, that Allardyce is going at the end of the season.But sadly this hasn't been confirmed yet.

 

[BernieWright13]

Change the club title to "I don't want Sam at Everton Club" and I will join. A club containing people who say they hate anyone is not a place to be near. I certainly don't hate him or anyone else. (I hate LFC but that is an institution).

Allardyce is an institution. Albeit only in his own head.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Its just a theory ...just trying to get into Moshs head. I suspect that after his initial misplaced enthusiasm for Koeman etc he has become determined to make 'careful' appointments,and he will think that SAm has been a success within his brief. Do not be surprised to see Sam here at the start of next season,and if results go well he could even see out his contract.SAm could actually go at any time from now until the end of next season...it depends on Mosh.

Koeman’s stock was high when he hired him and he did well in season 1, and he looked a decent appointment. After that for me he wasn’t committed enough and it took its toll, together with a completely lobsided squad, that looked like a battle ground between Walsh and Koeman.

Allardyce was brought in as a fire fighter, pure and simple. As we looked like a ship heading for the rocks. He’s done an adequate yet unispiring job and he’s acheived his brief.

However, Allardyce isn’t the long term future for this club and another season under him therefore makes zero sense. I’m certain that Moshiri will be cautious before making his next long term appointment, but keeping Allardyce would merely be kicking that decision up the road, and Moshiri doesn’t strike me as a bottler. He may well have already made his decision.......