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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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You were quick to slate @davek off when he raised concerns over Moshiri and Koeman, telling him to shut up and even told him to support the club.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/page-1613#post-5205471

Can you take your own advice please and stop crying like a teenage girl who never got asked to the prom.
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Whilst I don't disagree, I still stand by my point.

I felt we had more luck in the Watford game with them missing a last second penalty for instance.

Obviously everyone views this all differently and I appreciate that, but I can also see how utter toilet we've been since pre season. Heck, since january! Or like you said, since Coleman got hurt!

A team devoid of confidence as ours, big sam in my opinion, purely backs to the wall basics, was exactly what we needed.

Now I'm not advocating that he stays in charge longer than this season - however if after january we start playing a bit and we maintain this very good form we're in then.. well it's hard to argue otherwise.

This squad is very imbalanced and I think we need another 4 or so players who can do the business in the first team to come in and replace our ageing/ not good enough players before we can really start being upset with the football

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I'll show you his game plan below:

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Harsh. You can only work with the tools you have. Judge him at the end of the season, if we are still playing bad offensively then you have a point. (although 6 months is still a short period to try and change things)

I'm sure we can play better going forward by moving up the starting positions on the pitch and having a more attacking formation but when we start leaking goals again due to not having the pace and organisation I for one won't find that good football.

For what it's worth I think we will play ok against Bournemouth, they tend not to press as hard as most teams and won't hold back numbers attacking us. With a bit of space we should be ok, but it would be a bonus to get Rooney back.
 
Harsh. You can only work with the tools you have. Judge him at the end of the season, if we are still playing bad offensively then you have a point. (although 6 months is still a short period to try and change things)

I'm sure we can play better going forward by moving up the starting positions on the pitch and having a more attacking formation but when we start leaking goals again due to not having the pace and organisation I for one won't find that good football.

For what it's worth I think we will play ok against Bournemouth, they tend not to press as hard as most teams and won't hold back numbers attacking us. With a bit of space we should be ok, but it would be a bonus to get Rooney back.

Bournemouth, like West Brom, are a bottom three team. Since they beat Newcastle and Huddersfield, they have gone nine games without a win. And they have got an injury list as long as ours, if not longer. It looks a good opportunity to try for three points.

However, this is the third game of the Christmas period and limbs are getting tired. New faces may well be seen on both sides. So there is an element of the unknown about it.

Will Sam rest players for league points against Manchester United and a cup win against Liverpool? Or will he see Bournemouth as our best chance of success?
 

Bournemouth is a game in which we really should be able to open them up throughout. If we utilise the same defensive tactics and come away with anything other than a win then that has to be seen as a failure.
 
Come on people. Get a grip!

The West Brom game was disappointing because we played awfully and didn’t win. I get it. I too was bored senseless by our inept display away to a team who hadn’t won in 17 games and who have Alan “I’m a walking ‘kin kn0bhead” Pardew as manager. However, we didn’t lose and the clean sheet will noboubt add some more confidence to what was, a few weeks ago, the worst back line in the division.

If there was one thing you could definitely credit BSA for it would be that a few weeks ago we had shipped more goals than anyone else, and 7 games later there are 9 other teams that have now conceded either the same or more than we have. That is outstanding!

I think we’d have been all made up if we’d have won against WB with a scrappy 1-0. However football is a results business and we didn’t so now sam’s footballing style must take criticism. Yes Koeman or Unsworth May have won that game, but both those managers would’ve sent us into the RS and Chelsea games like lambs to the slaughter. Yes, we were lucky at anfield but even if we hadn’t have got that pen a 1-0loss is easily better than a humiliating 5-1.

Key point:
What I would ask people who don’t like our current manager is this: did you feel more angry after West brom 0-0 or Bournemouth 3-3 under Martinez 2 years ago? For me the clear winner is Bournemouth. Yes we played better football and scored some goals, but didn’t win the game because we had a manager who hadn’t worked on set pieces, fitness and game management. With Sam we don’t have that. He will milk every point out of this team that he can. That, for me is the most important thing. We’d all love to be playing and winning like man city but sometimes that isn’t possible with what you have.

It’s been said on here before by many but we have to give Sam time. He needs at least a window. We currently have a horrible squad of players. It lacks pace, width, height, some players are too old, some players are too young, some players have bad attitude problems, long term injuries, and there’s too much depth in some positions and not enough in others. Seriously if Moshiri and Bill have a chat with Walsh about January and the first 2 names he mentions aren’t a striker and a left back they should sack him on the spot.

If in May BSA is still turning in these types of performances then the arguments I’ve seen above are justified and we can start to see what else is out there. But for the moment he’s doing ok.
 
We don't need to give him time.

He is here to do a job of keeping us in the league.

If he does that (and it is looking good) then he'll have earned his £6m a year salary and we can part on good terms.

Any idea that we should be giving him money to spend on transfers and looking to employ him in the long term are ridiculous. The longer he is here the more difficult it will be to do the long term squad building we need to do to get anywhere near winning a trophy.
 

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