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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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Personally, I’m organising a march outside the stadium tomorrow before kick off. We need to let the club know that Allardyce isn’t good enough for us as a club. Starting at the club shop at 2.15. Hope to see you all there
 
For what exactly?

Coming into the club and doing precisely what was needed - stopping us leaking goals, making us hard to beat and moving out of the relegation places - and in double quick time?

His acknowledgement of the lack of creation and goal scoring chances is refreshing, RoKo gave us bs a-plenty.

You might not like him Chris, but cut the guy some slack eh, he's done more in a month than Koeman did in four !!

*a select four months, he qualified us for Europe and got a broken side moving again in the other 12
 
Interesting to hear him call out (for want of a better word) Sandro, Niasse and Dcl in the presser. Not sure how i feel about that. Don't often hear managers admit they have serious defiencies.
 

*a select four months, he qualified us for Europe and got a broken side moving again in the other 12

A select four months ?
July, August, September and October... during which time he ruined all the reasonable work of the previous season.
Alienated himself from the players, and failed to even attempt to repair the damage between himself and Barkley.
But okay...
 
For what exactly?

Coming into the club and doing precisely what was needed - stopping us leaking goals, making us hard to beat and moving out of the relegation places - and in double quick time?

His acknowledgement of the lack of creation and goal scoring chances is refreshing, RoKo gave us bs a-plenty.

You might not like him Chris, but cut the guy some slack eh, he's done more in a month than Koeman did in four !!

Andy, any half decent manager would have done that. It was blatantly obvious, sit deeper and be more compact. We were poor under Koeman, very poor, but the same happened last year and as much as people didn’t want him, I still reckon he would have easily pulled us away.

But he paid the price for a terrible summer transfer market whilst that overrated PE teacher takes no blame; but somehow managers to be working with his best mate.

He’s no miracle worker, but this is what the media portrayals him as. And let’s be brutally honest here, he’s had a fair slice of luck with missed chances against us, West Brom should have been at least 2 up at half time.

People screaming and dancing because we managed wins against 3 of the worst teams in the PL, granted the result against the RS wasn’t expected but it’s not like we haven’t earned a draw there in years gone by; it was also helped by Klopps ego and Manes need to be on the scoresheet.

My issue with allardyce, apart from his dodgy past is the brand of football he serves up and the lasting damage it has on clubs. He swoons in with his gang of merry men and changes the ethos of clubs and then walks away as a hero.

Look at the way some of our fans have reacted, calling him a miracle worker already and “he’s done what he was paid to do”, utter rubbish. No wonder this club struggles to achieve, the entire place has a negative attitude and accepts second rate as acceptable.

Never in my lifetime would I wish to see an Everton side go to West Brom and afford them so much space whilst we literally parked a bus. And fans have accepted this.

Then we bang on about “no quality” in the team. Half those players who can’t make our first team would walk in to Swansea, Newcastle, West Brom, Huddersfield, Brighton’s first team; with ease.

The lack of quality is hidden because of how we setup, plain and simple. We play in our final third, not the opposition.

It was a shambolic appointment by the board and they should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Did he offer an apology to the fans??

Sort of yes.

Said we haven't the calibre of player to go out and attack teams.

Basically said our attack is shoite and can't be relied on to score goals from open play, therefore his first thought when setting up is not to concede, and until we get at least one striker in, that's how its gonna be.
 
I would rather we didn’t have Sam allardayce.
Unfortunately however (in your opinion at least), we do have Allardyce therefore I'd suggest you may want to look at his actions objectively.

The football currently isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination and concerns about progression are fair, but why not look at the positives?

We've shored up a defence that was woeful to the point of being inept and are actually beginning to gain vital results be it wins or draws.

Also, there appears to be a growing confidence and it appears that the players who aren't up to the standard will soon be shown the door.

The football hasn't regressed from flamboyant, fantastic football either - it's been turgid for a while - and he's explained he wants it to improve.

Doubts about his long-term impact are fair; questions regarding our set-up against WBA are just; I myself are questioning how we'll improve.

However, the simple fact of the matter is that just over a month ago we looked like real contenders for relegation fodder and now we don't.

For that alone, I'm happy to give Allardyce the credit he deserves. Moaning because you dislike the man doesn't change those blunts facts.

Not aimed at you personally but I think a lot of people need to ask: do they dislike Allardyce more than they actually love Everton?
 

Personally, I’m organising a march outside the stadium tomorrow before kick off. We need to let the club know that Allardyce isn’t good enough for us as a club. Starting at the club shop at 2.15. Hope to see you all there
Please accept my apology as I cannot attend due to an appointment to watch my football club play at Bournemouth.
Regards.
 
Andy, any half decent manager would have done that. It was blatantly obvious, sit deeper and be more compact. We were poor under Koeman, very poor, but the same happened last year and as much as people didn’t want him, I still reckon he would have easily pulled us away.

But he paid the price for a terrible summer transfer market whilst that overrated PE teacher takes no blame; but somehow managers to be working with his best mate.

He’s no miracle worker, but this is what the media portrayals him as. And let’s be brutally honest here, he’s had a fair slice of luck with missed chances against us, West Brom should have been at least 2 up at half time.

People screaming and dancing because we managed wins against 3 of the worst teams in the PL, granted the result against the RS wasn’t expected but it’s not like we haven’t earned a draw there in years gone by; it was also helped by Klopps ego and Manes need to be on the scoresheet.

My issue with allardyce, apart from his dodgy past is the brand of football he serves up and the lasting damage it has on clubs. He swoons in with his gang of merry men and changes the ethos of clubs and then walks away as a hero.

Look at the way some of our fans have reacted, calling him a miracle worker already and “he’s done what he was paid to do”, utter rubbish. No wonder this club struggles to achieve, the entire place has a negative attitude and accepts second rate as acceptable.

Never in my lifetime would I wish to see an Everton side go to West Brom and afford them so much space whilst we literally parked a bus. And fans have accepted this.

Then we bang on about “no quality” in the team. Half those players who can’t make our first team would walk in to Swansea, Newcastle, West Brom, Huddersfield, Brighton’s first team; with ease.

The lack of quality is hidden because of how we setup, plain and simple. We play in our final third, not the opposition.

It was a shambolic appointment by the board and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Chris when we were trashed by Arsenal at home I fear that was not going to happen, that Koeman was not going to drag us away from the relegation zone. Even I had been a supporter of the babyface I believe he had lost the players on and off the pitch and that was the right moment to leave. How we set up as a team, no pace and playing 3 10s but there you go the rest is history.

I agree the pe teacher has to share the blame and he is still sitting comfortably in his arm chair at this point, for somehow.

Let's be honest I am sure Sam was not everyone's choice. I believe from the board's perspective right after the defeat against Soton away, we all fear the team was going to relegate at that rate. To get someone who is known as keeping a club up in the PL, a firefighter if you want to call it, was clearly "a safety first" option. What he did was that he stopped us from leaking goals, keeping clean sheets in most occasions which Koeman and Unsworth failed to do earlier in the season. And thus we started picking up points.

I agree he was the ambitious appointment we need but I guess he serves his purpose at this moment. Right after the sacking of Koeman, I was wondering who on earth (was decent certainly not Silva) would take over as the new manager as the options were limited.

Hopefully we can overtake Burnley soon and we'll see how it goes in May (to make a decision). I agree his brand of football, like Moyes is not attractive but for me as long as Everton get results, I have no problem with that.
 

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