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Sam Allardyce

So, what next?

  • IN. Give him a chance and see what he can do?

    Votes: 79 8.3%
  • OUT. Thanks but no thanks. See Ya?

    Votes: 758 79.3%
  • As ever. Cheese on Toast

    Votes: 25 2.6%
  • Er, I am a bit scared of us Evertoning this right up.

    Votes: 94 9.8%

  • Total voters
    956
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'Peter Reid is one of my best mates, so are Andy Gray and Paul Bracewell whom I worked with at Sunderland – these people have always made me aware of just how special and unique a club Everton is and I feel really enthused and energised to come in as manager,' said the former England manager.

'I've always thought Everton was a great club. It's one of the biggest there is. Obviously, the club has gone through a difficult spell and hopefully we can put that behind us as quickly as possible and start looking upwards again.

'Because, ultimately, it's the ambition of the club, the ambition of the owner and the board, allied to the fact that it's Everton and all the fantastic history, which have proved to be key for me.

'Ambition is important for any manager or coach, owner or director. It's what you need to have and hopefully we can deliver to the fans to get this club high up the league. That's what we're aiming for.'

'I think that whatever's happened before we've just got to all rally around together. Players, fans and staff,' he added.

'Because we are all in it together. Let's all pull in the same direction. Let's try to get a healthy spirit around the club. That's difficult when you're losing but the win last night over West Ham and the magnificent atmosphere around Goodison, which was just brilliant, well that's lifted everybody around the club.'

We've got to try to keep our heads up and push ourselves until we make sure we get that better. The fans are the most important people at any football club, particularly here, and we have to give the players every possibility to play to their best, really give them no excuses for not playing to their best and get them right back up to the top level we believe they're capable of.'
 
What is it mate, style of football or his ambiguous history?

I had a peak at a West Ham forum today the general feel was that they shouldn’t have got rid of him.

I'd be going over the same things that others have said in the main mate but the 2 things that have really upset me are

1. Allardyce hasn't earned the right to be manager of Everton Football Club.

2. The boards clueless attempts to secure a manager has been an absolute piss take and made us look small time/clueless/rudderless and I'm fuming, absolutely embarrassed mate that they've represented Everton football club in such a way

Those 2 things mean a lot to me.
 
In what sense? Everton win = GOT is happy place

Everton lose = GOT is funny place

A lovely terrible beautiful dilemma, love Everton, dislike Allardyce.

Unsworth was never getting the job but, there was no realistic plan in place to recruit a new manager.
We've ended up with Allardyce and while, I was unhappy that we were linked with him weeks ago, last nights result probably compounded that.
Beat Huddersfield and we're top half again..relegation scrap?
To those players who didn't give a toss and showed it in their performances, hope the new manager bins you off in Jan.
Moshiri, seems to be taking centre stage and wants to play with his train set, so the onus on him now is to deliver on his promises.
Going back to Allardyce, it is what it is, he's our manager now and whether we dislike him or his brand of footie, we support Everton and that's what really matters (still wiggle room in that length of contact though).
 
A successful Everton is a successful Allardyce mate, it will be funny if and what brings people around.

I wonder what the tipping point would be if he say got within a few points of Europe this season and got to the cup final, would people want him to get a second season.

No I don't think they would. It is going to be pretty unpalatable fare for a little while and there is a dangling of a "big name" to come in. 18 month deal is so crucial here; any more and they risked a very public revolt from the fans, any less and it's what hamstrung Unsworth, the players know the boss is only weeks away from going anyway so let's piss about.

I also genuinely don't think he wants 18 months more in the game. This is ideal; it is probably at least twice what he has earned per year in other jobs, possibly even four times, plus he'll have bonuses and his final year paid off for what amounts to the least pressured job going. He hasn't got to try and get Borini playing at this club, or Davies, or similar; he needs to keep fit and motivated a player capable of scoring 58 yard first time strikes.

People don't need to come round, I don't think. That's the massive upside of Lee / Allardyce / Walsh axis of evil; it's channeled focussed anger. Not raging at everything as we were until recently when people were asking for every Evertonian on the coaching staff to be sacked!
 

I'd be going over the same things that others have said in the main mate but the 2 things that have really upset me are

1. Allardyce hasn't earned the right to be manager of Everton Football Club.

2. The boards clueless attempts to secure a manager has been an absolute piss take and made us look small time/clueless/rudderless and I'm fuming, absolutely embarrassed mate that they've represented Everton football club in such a way

Those 2 things mean a lot to me.

I personally think he’s the best we could have got in the current market in terms of availability, context and risk. We can always come with exotic names but huts and bolts there unproven.

I’ve written off the season to be honest a long time ago, but I am interested to see what he does here. I think people are going a bit over the top on their judgement of him to be honest. I think he has been relatively successful anywhere he has been given the context, this is his biggest ever job, with resources it will be interesting to see what he does.

I have a very open mind when it comes to him, I don’t think he will be here beyond his contract, but what I think we have in common as a club and a manager is we both like to Bloody some noses and we both have a point to prove. Could be win/win for both.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back at England after us.
 
'Peter Reid is one of my best mates, so are Andy Gray and Paul Bracewell whom I worked with at Sunderland – these people have always made me aware of just how special and unique a club Everton is and I feel really enthused and energised to come in as manager,' said the former England manager.

'I've always thought Everton was a great club. It's one of the biggest there is. Obviously, the club has gone through a difficult spell and hopefully we can put that behind us as quickly as possible and start looking upwards again.

'Because, ultimately, it's the ambition of the club, the ambition of the owner and the board, allied to the fact that it's Everton and all the fantastic history, which have proved to be key for me.

'Ambition is important for any manager or coach, owner or director. It's what you need to have and hopefully we can deliver to the fans to get this club high up the league. That's what we're aiming for.'

'I think that whatever's happened before we've just got to all rally around together. Players, fans and staff,' he added.

'Because we are all in it together. Let's all pull in the same direction. Let's try to get a healthy spirit around the club. That's difficult when you're losing but the win last night over West Ham and the magnificent atmosphere around Goodison, which was just brilliant, well that's lifted everybody around the club.'

We've got to try to keep our heads up and push ourselves until we make sure we get that better. The fans are the most important people at any football club, particularly here, and we have to give the players every possibility to play to their best, really give them no excuses for not playing to their best and get them right back up to the top level we believe they're capable of.'

A bold statement and no mistake.
 
No I don't think they would. It is going to be pretty unpalatable fare for a little while and there is a dangling of a "big name" to come in. 18 month deal is so crucial here; any more and they risked a very public revolt from the fans, any less and it's what hamstrung Unsworth, the players know the boss is only weeks away from going anyway so let's piss about.

I also genuinely don't think he wants 18 months more in the game. This is ideal; it is probably at least twice what he has earned per year in other jobs, possibly even four times, plus he'll have bonuses and his final year paid off for what amounts to the least pressured job going. He hasn't got to try and get Borini playing at this club, or Davies, or similar; he needs to keep fit and motivated a player capable of scoring 58 yard first time strikes.

People don't need to come round, I don't think. That's the massive upside of Lee / Allardyce / Walsh axis of evil; it's channeled focussed anger. Not raging at everything as we were until recently when people were asking for every Evertonian on the coaching staff to be sacked!


Good post mate, see mine above, it’s going to be interesting, I think many are going to come around, I think we all have pre conceived judgements that might not be close to the mark.
 

I personally think he’s the best we could have got in the current market in terms of availability, context and risk. We can always come with exotic names but huts and bolts there unproven.

I’ve written off the season to be honest a long time ago, but I am interested to see what he does here. I think people are going a bit over the top on their judgement of him to be honest. I think he has been relatively successful anywhere he has been given the context, this is his biggest ever job, with resources it will be interesting to see what he does.

I have a very open mind when it comes to him, I don’t think he will be here beyond his contract, but what I think we have in common as a club and a manager is we both like to Bloody some noses and we both have a point to prove. Could be win/win for both.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back at England after us.

I respect your opinion and reasoning mate, I'm honestly just struggling to stomach the last few days and hopefully that will subside given time, approx 18 months probably lol ;)
 

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