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Chris O'Connor said:
I really can't see Gerrard leaving Rangers unless Klopp was sacked at Liverpool. Although winning the Scottish title isn't normally seen as much of an achievement in England, breaking the one horse race monopoly is probably seen as significant.

Gerrard having proven he can compete has achieved what many thought improbable, with no premier league jobs likely to be offered a struggling club in the second tier Championship would be the slternative.

Lenny found out how finances and a downward spiral can make that switch brutal, you're not high profile anymore and noone really cares. You only make it if you have absolutely outstanding managerial ability, it's a constant battle against huge odds with one hand tied behind your back, it's not an attractive alternative.

Lenny sunk without trace at Bolton and Gerrard would bee e door!! a fool to leave imo.
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It's quite funny how all these people that don't rate Gerrard are desperate to get him out the door at Ibrox.
 

larbert toffee said:
Only scenario I could really picture is your first paragraph Chris, honestly (maybe it's more hope than anything else) can't see Liverpool getting out of this slump anytime soon and the goon in charge of them is looking increasingly lost with each post match interview which passes.
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Yes it was pointed out in an article I was reading the other day that Klopp has had similar tailspin at Mainz and Dortmund. So firstly a great meteoric rise, Mainz promoted or Dortmund's more acclaimed and notable rise, followed by an unstoppable slump he could never succeed in reversing

Maybe it's just me being a super optimistic blue but history could just be repeating itself. A two to three year shelf life of great success before turning sour isn't exactly a new phenomenon other managers have had a recognised shelf life.

José Mourinho at the peak of his powers (not now) nearly always achieved great success wherever he went but was never a long term choice. It would inevitably turn sour with players no longer listening and the club sacking him. Chelsea sacked him twice after winning the title both times, the second after a miserable defence of their title the following year

C'mon Klopp channel your inner Mourinho.
 

Chris O'Connor said:
Yes it was pointed out in an article I was reading the other day that Klopp has had similar tailspin at Mainz and Dortmund. So firstly a great meteoric rise, Mainz promoted or Dortmund's more acclaimed and notable rise, followed by an unstoppable slump he could never succeed in reversing

Maybe just it's me being a super optimistic blue but history could just be repeating itself. A two to three year shelf life of great success before turning sour isn't exactly a new phenomenon other managers have had a recognised shelf life.

José Mourinho at the peak of his powers (not now) nearly always achieved great success wherever he went but was never a long term choice. It would inevitably turn sour with players no longer listening and the club sacking him. Chelsea sacked him twice after winning the title both times, the second after a miserable defence of their title the following year

C'mon Klopp channel your inner Mourinho.
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I guess when you stop and look at it in the main most managers even successful ones have a reasonably short shelf life, notable exceptions in recent years being Ferguson, Wenger and even our own Moyes, that's why there's such a merry go round. At the same time it makes life interesting as long as its not your club that's part of that process.
 
larbert toffee said:
Nah mate, he's done a decent job up here but he's had a lot of help from the RS in doing so, I'm prepared to wish him back there, completely different kettle of fish, remember Brenda couldn't crack it at the RS and he turned into a world beater up here.
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Tbf Rodgers has proved himself as a top manager/coach in both Scotland and England.
 
Chris O'Connor said:
Yes it was pointed out in an article I was reading the other day that Klopp has had similar tailspin at Mainz and Dortmund. So firstly a great meteoric rise, Mainz promoted or Dortmund's more acclaimed and notable rise, followed by an unstoppable slump he could never succeed in reversing

Maybe it's just me being a super optimistic blue but history could just be repeating itself. A two to three year shelf life of great success before turning sour isn't exactly a new phenomenon other managers have had a recognised shelf life.

José Mourinho at the peak of his powers (not now) nearly always achieved great success wherever he went but was never a long term choice. It would inevitably turn sour with players no longer listening and the club sacking him. Chelsea sacked him twice after winning the title both times, the second after a miserable defence of their title the following year

C'mon Klopp channel your inner Mourinho.
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Can't see them binning Klopp, pretty sure they'll be giving him the benefit of the doubt and will wait and see if he can hit the reset button for next season.
 

laudo9 said:
It's quite funny how all these people that don't rate Gerrard are desperate to get him out the door at Ibrox.
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I think in fairness mate, most people want Gerrard out of Rangers not out of any fear of Rangers, but because he's completely unqualified to manage Liverpool and it would be a spectacular, and hilarious disaster. I would guess thats 99% of Evertonians viewpoint. I really couldn't care less about Rangers.
 
Chris O'Connor said:
Yes it was pointed out in an article I was reading the other day that Klopp has had similar tailspin at Mainz and Dortmund. So firstly a great meteoric rise, Mainz promoted or Dortmund's more acclaimed and notable rise, followed by an unstoppable slump he could never succeed in reversing

Maybe it's just me being a super optimistic blue but history could just be repeating itself. A two to three year shelf life of great success before turning sour isn't exactly a new phenomenon other managers have had a recognised shelf life.

José Mourinho at the peak of his powers (not now) nearly always achieved great success wherever he went but was never a long term choice. It would inevitably turn sour with players no longer listening and the club sacking him. Chelsea sacked him twice after winning the title both times, the second after a miserable defence of their title the following year

C'mon Klopp channel your inner Mourinho.
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I really don't think it's a case of being super optimistic. The reality is, it's already happened. The debate about Klopp is now very much one of how far he can drag them down.
 

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