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2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

The Littlest Yobo said:
Why are people elevating Fulham to being some kind of quasi Brazil 1970 outfit? Yes, they are a decent side but they’ve won one more game than us this season, lost just one less and we are just 3 points behind them having lost our 4 opening fixtures. Is it really too much to ask that we, (drumroll) try and actually beat Fulham at home? Is that too lofty an ambition or too much of a stretch for Sean Dyche? Appears it is.
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Who is saying they’re a quasi Brazil 1970?

We didn’t lose 5-0. It was a draw.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Well in his only full season here so far the team improved by 12 points whilst the club turned a transfer profit, so he must have done something.

Quite simply if he was genuinely doing all the stuff people are accusing him of we wouldn’t still be in the league.

Its the most ruthless cut throat league in the world with top managers and top players and people are seriously pretending that you can get 48 points against these other teams and managers by hoofing and looking for flick ons to no one. As if these managers would genuinely lose games against a team whose only method of playing was that.

The other thing is that managers in this league catch on to predictability, it’s why some managers have a decent half season and then next season are relegated or fired. Managers adapt and suss out tactics. If Dyche is still getting results 22 months later then the only logical conclusions are he either is varying his tactics or his plan A is so effective that some prem managers even 22 months can’t counter it.

For those who say he hasn’t demonstrated an improvement. If you could show a table of all Pl teams points per net pound spent improvement during the time Dyche has been here where do we think he would be? Then look at where the club was when he arrived and the squad we had and ask could we really have asked more of him than that?
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People complaining that we rescued a point at home to what is a far superior team are amusing to me. Fulham's realistic goal for the season is to crack the top 7/8; ours is to stay in the PL. They've always bossed us about at Goodison in the last few years. Not exactly a surprise therefore that we have to hang on and make it a close game for as long as we can and try and grab something from the game.

The same people would have the new flavour of the month in here...and if he failed they'd slide away back into the shadows or start rioting that the board had destabilised us.

I find it absolutely 'kin comical, tbh: the clamour to destabilise us and sack a man we all know can keep us safe just on the off chance we get a new manager who hands us 20 minute spells in games where the football is easier on the eye.

There's no getting through to these people; they're unreachable.
 
kenada_blue said:
Not glamorous either.

Couldn't believe Match of the Day last night that spent more time praising Southampton and how they play football, using quotes from Pep. If it wasn't for poor finishing that game would've been 5.0 to City.

But no. A side with 1 point and zero wins in 9 play football the right way so they get a pat on the head.
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This is the difference. I think Martin said if they were going to lose they could do it in a way they were proud of. I wonder if their fans are proud of the football after 8 losses in 9 or whether they’d prefer to just not lose and stay in the league.
 
I'm afraid we're howling at the moon a little folks, but i get venting on here is better than kicking the cat and being done for animal cruelty.

Dyche won't change. If anything he's more likely to more trenchantly adhere to shape and defense first if we hit a run of bad results.

Until we have new owners, he ain't going away i don't think.

Turbo frustrating to watch. Everton should be done for cruelty to fans.
 
davek said:
People complaining that we rescued a point at home to what is a far superior team are amusing to me. Fulham's realistic goal for the season is to crack the top 7/8; ours is to stay in the PL. They've always bossed us about at Goodison in the last few years. Not exactly a surprise therefore that we have to hang on and make it a close game for as long as we can and try and grab something from the game.

The same people would have the new flavour of the month in here...and if he failed they'd slide away back into the shadows or start rioting that the board had destabilised us.

I find it absolutely 'kin comical, tbh: the clamour to destabilise us and sack a man we all know can keep us safe just on the off chance we get a new manager who hands us 20 minute spells in games where the football is easier on the eye.

There's no getting through to these people; they're unreachable.
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What a laughable comment. They aren’t Man City.

I find it comical the bending over backwards to act as if the team that finished 12th last season is just hoping to scrape survival.
 

davek said:
People complaining that we rescued a point at home to what is a far superior team are amusing to me. Fulham's realistic goal for the season is to crack the top 7/8; ours is to stay in the PL. They've always bossed us about at Goodison in the last few years. Not exactly a surprise therefore that we have to hang on and make it a close game for as long as we can and try and grab something from the game.

The same people would have the new flavour of the month in here...and if he failed they'd slide away back into the shadows or start rioting that the board had destabilised us.

I find it absolutely 'kin comical, tbh: the clamour to destabilise us and sack a man we all know can keep us safe just on the off chance we get a new manager who hands us 20 minute spells in games where the football is easier on the eye.

There's no getting through to these people; they're unreachable.
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Thankfully it’s not as bad now. Even if Dyche went tomorrow I think we’ve now got a better squad than we had in Jan 23, the teams that have come up are poor, and if the takeover goes through we should have some money for transfers potentially. Dyche has taken us from a team that was 19th to one where most people are expecting a lower mid table finish, with some of his critics even saying the squad is perhaps the 9th best in the league. Clearly expectations have been increased and Dyche has progressed us despite the daily bleating that he hasn’t.

The clamouring to remove Dyche in previous seasons though was bordering on spinning the wheel of the clubs whole future and some people were willing to do that, to take the downside of us being relegated, championship, leasing of new stadium administration, for the potential upside of some higher possession stats and an 11th place finish and some more ‘entertainment’.
 
davek said:
People complaining that we rescued a point at home to what is a far superior team are amusing to me. Fulham's realistic goal for the season is to crack the top 7/8; ours is to stay in the PL. They've always bossed us about at Goodison in the last few years. Not exactly a surprise therefore that we have to hang on and make it a close game for as long as we can and try and grab something from the game.

The same people would have the new flavour of the month in here...and if he failed they'd slide away back into the shadows or start rioting that the board had destabilised us.

I find it absolutely 'kin comical, tbh: the clamour to destabilise us and sack a man we all know can keep us safe just on the off chance we get a new manager who hands us 20 minute spells in games where the football is easier on the eye.

There's no getting through to these people; they're unreachable.
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Yeah, crazy people wanting the team to ever try and actually win a game of football by keeping hold of the ball and not allowing every opponent to dominate us for the majority of every single game.
 
The Littlest Yobo said:
Why are people elevating Fulham to being some kind of quasi Brazil 1970 outfit? Yes, they are a decent side but they’ve won one more game than us this season, lost just one less and we are just 3 points behind them having lost our 4 opening fixtures. Is it really too much to ask that we, (drumroll) try and actually beat Fulham at home? Is that too lofty an ambition or too much of a stretch for Sean Dyche? Appears it is.
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This is it really, we set up To try and snatch a win on the break again but home to Fulham
Daveysgingerlovechild said:
I'm afraid we're howling at the moon a little folks, but i get venting on here is better than kicking the cat and being done for animal cruelty.

Dyche won't change. If anything he's more likely to more trenchantly adhere to shape and defense first if we hit a run of bad results.

Until we have new owners, he ain't going away i don't think.

Turbo frustrating to watch. Everton should be done for cruelty to fans.
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I stand firm in my belief , and it’s been like this for years , that Everton are some kind of warped social experiment so see just how much a football fan base will put up with .

Every time we think we’ve reached peak Everton , like appointing a beloved RS who ridiculed us manager or spurious headlock allegations there is still more to come .

As you say I feel like we’re all in too deep so we’ve no real option but to buckle up and do our best to ‘enjoy’ what’s to come .
 
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Saint Domingo said:
Who is saying they’re a quasi Brazil 1970?

We didn’t lose 5-0. It was a draw.
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My point was Fulham are not having much better than us results wise this season. They are a bang average Premier League team. Literally. We actually finished above them last year (points deduction notwithstanding) yet to listen to some on here it’s a laudable achievement to somehow stare the might of Fulham down and grab a point. Dyche’s comments about them always giving us problems at Goodison or whatever is partly due to him being in charge for the last 3 home fixtures against them. The excuses made for this fella are incredible, to be honest. It was Fulham. At home. And it was absolutely dire.
 

This fella is the one that has created the “oh we’re in a relegation battle” mentality again. When, in actual fact, this squad is comfortably about 12th best in the league and should be playing non-important football come April.

It’s all his own doing for his own gain.

He thinks he’s doing us a favour. The only favour he needs to do is jog on and go away.
 
davek said:
Fulham are a way better outfit than us.

Can you imagine us going to Man City and create chance after chance and have them holding on in a 3-2 game?
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davek said:
People complaining that we rescued a point at home to what is a far superior team are amusing to me. Fulham's realistic goal for the season is to crack the top 7/8; ours is to stay in the PL. They've always bossed us about at Goodison in the last few years. Not exactly a surprise therefore that we have to hang on and make it a close game for as long as we can and try and grab something from the game.

The same people would have the new flavour of the month in here...and if he failed they'd slide away back into the shadows or start rioting that the board had destabilised us.

I find it absolutely 'kin comical, tbh: the clamour to destabilise us and sack a man we all know can keep us safe just on the off chance we get a new manager who hands us 20 minute spells in games where the football is easier on the eye.

There's no getting through to these people; they're unreachable.
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The trouble with being a contrarian is that one inevitably ends up talking a load of bilge
 

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