2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[jazzy]

I know this is a humorous take so I’m genuinely not having a go at you mate

Just for a second can we also consider though: Ten Hag was the ‘progressive’ manager in Europe at the time, schooled under Guardiola at Bayern his Ajax team was total football with young players going all the way to the CL semi final that they really should have won.

He goes to United and with a squad already stacked full of good players he falls out with Sancho, spends 100s of millions on new players some of which he now doesn’t even rate himself and need to be moved on, and has taken them from top 4 gradually down season on season

Now if we’d fired Dyche after his first few months as some wanted, and we showed our ‘ambition’ and got Ten Hag in (let’s pretend for a second he didn’t go to United and was available) and he did the same job here taking us backward in league placing every season, we’d have gone down, chaos would have ensued and then the points deductions would have hit and we’d have gone.

It just shows that sometimes it’s horses for courses. I believe Dyche has been the right horse for this course and hopefully soon this course will be at an end and it will be about finding the right manager who can move us from mid table back to pushing for Europe.

Ten Hag is a cautionary tale though that not all ‘progressive’ managers in continental leagues can cut it in the PL. We’ll be in a much better position to take a gamble on one once Friedkin have taken over but I still maintain that the last 18 months was not the time to roll the dice on a gamble. The upside was minimal and the downside was the end of the club as a top flight entity. Thankfully we’re moving away from this perilous position now.

I suspect that the problems at United run just as deep as at Goodison.

If I had been Ratcliffe the first thing I would have done on taking over would have been to transfer list Rashford , Fernandes and Anthony

 

[MikeH72]

Glad you’ve finally recognised the job he’s done.

I seem to have more faith in him than you, as you think that a home point against Fulham could be crucial to shaping the future of the football club.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I seem to have more faith in him than you, as you think that a home point against Fulham could be crucial to shaping the future of the football club.

Stop calling him a miracle worker, have you got a shrine in your bedroom to him or something? Why are you calling for him to get a 5 year contract? Oh my god you’re comparing him to Guardiola?!!!

 

[DanB90]

Hopefully United don’t come in for him.

 

[nsno-chris]

So United should be definitely coming in for him considering the following statements have been made about how we play:

He plays youth
Our fullbacks go past the halfway line regularly
We don’t just hoof it to Dom

United would be fools not to consider him with the marvellous work he’s done here. How we make every home game a real fight rather than sitting back and hoping for something to happen

 

[MikeH72]

So United should be definitely coming in for him considering the following statements have been made about how we play:

He plays youth
Our fullbacks go past the halfway line regularly
We don’t just hoof it to Dom

United would be fools not to consider him with the marvellous work he’s done here. How we make every home game a real fight rather than sitting back and hoping for something to happen

I hope in his interview for the United job he points to the development of Dixon, Simms and Harrison Armstrong under him.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Hopefully United don’t come in for him.

Hopefully they do.

 

[DL100]

The idea that our current play style is built around DCL's strengths doesn’t seem accurate to me. Under Ancelotti, we actually played to his strengths with more dynamic outlets going forward, and it worked well when we had a fit 11.

Whenever Beto has played, the play style has stayed pretty much the same; there’s no real shift to suit the striker. When Broja gets his chance, I’d bet we’ll still be playing long balls up to him in the same way.

Did it work well though? from what i remember he scored all his goals over a short spell then went a few months without a goal?

 

[Furey1878]

Has anyone ever said he's good enough for a club like United? As much as I'm enjoying the sinister laughs people are having in here like.

 

[mikel_88]

Stop calling him a miracle worker, have you got a shrine in your bedroom to him or something? Why are you calling for him to get a 5 year contract? Oh my god you’re comparing him to Guardiola?!!!

For me he is down the middle dont think he has done anything specail here, but at the same time has not done badly here. Agree the style of football is pathetic esp at home he has not real plan b if his first plan is not working. I would keep him to the end of the season If he does improve on what he is doing then maybe can be looked at for him to stay.

 

[DL100]

people arent still defending him are they?

 

[Marius57]

For me he is down the middle dont think he has done anything specail here, but at the same time has not done badly here. Agree the style of football is pathetic esp at home he has not real plan b if his first plan is not working. I would keep him to the end of the season If he does improve on what he is doing then maybe can be looked at for him to stay.

Why would he need a plan b mate? His plan a and starting 11 is infallible.

 

[mikel_88]

people arent still defending him are they?

Dyche not really but at same time dont really get people wanting him out right away, for me is get thru this season. Then make the choice at the end of the season when he can leave

 

[Nyhus]

Did it work well though? from what i remember he scored all his goals over a short spell then went a few months without a goal?

As long as Rodriguez was playing, he scored a fair few if i remember correctly. His scoring fell off with James playing less and less.

 

[MikeH72]

Get Eddie Howe when the fat inbred horse punchers sack him.