2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Delargeinho]

‘Work hard’ is his only ethos. If it goes pear-shaped, then it’s ’Work harder’.

Probably Dyche is a good example of form is temporary and class is permanent.

Just the 7th place with Burnley, was one of the best individual manager achievements of the last 10y surely.

But the other side of the medal is also the club more played more around 15-16th he managed to constantly make the club a top 10 club.

 

[twoblue]

How on Earth have you compared Klaasen to Lookman?! Klaasen was never, ever going to work in the prem.

Juan Sebastian Veron was a superb player, not over here though.

Lookman could have thrived here, so could players like Moise Kean and possibly Vlasic but realistically we haven’t got the culture/wherewithal or patience to give these players the time they need.

Klaasen is just all wrong for our league, so was Van De Beek and he’s way more talented.

I agree there is something with our culture behind the scenes that gives us a pretty low hit rate with signing young players with potential.
To be fair signing players full stop under moshiri was a terrible success rate.
Say what you want about Dyche but the culture of passengers has gone

 

[18efc78]

Poor diet and nonchalance

Because we spend 70 minutes chasing the ball, either when we have it or they do

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Taking solice come what may by season end he knows his limited abilities as a footballer manager will no longer hold Everton back.

 

[John from Bootle]

Because everyone else is bringing on 5 fresh players by that point which makes it more obvious.

I've already established that this is not strictly true Michael. I only used a sample size of one week like.

I'll use an even smaller sample size this week; West Ham used 4 subs, the last of whom came on in the 83rd minute. Granted we only used 2, but it was far from our strongest bench of the season. The last sample set of fixtures I used had Dyche using 4, 10 others using 5, some using 3, and Pep with a weak bench using 2.

Not saying he couldn't or shouldn't use more, but this thing of everybody is changing half their team for significant chunks of matches is just not true. Even when 5 subs are used it's normally that one was brought on very late.

 

[Raino85]

Miles better players than us.

Really?

They have some players better than ours

Aina
Wood
Gibbs White

I'm reluctant to put Hudson Odoi or Elanga on the list though as Dyche wouldn't use them properly or not use them at all, I feel someone like Lindstrum has similar assets if not more.

 

[Runub]

One day closer to getting rid of Dyche

 

[Mashtray]

Really?

They have some players better than ours

Aina
Wood
Gibbs White

I'm reluctant to put Hudson Odoi or Elanga on the list though as Dyche wouldn't use them properly or not use them at all, I feel someone like Lindstrum has similar assets if not more.

funny how we were linked with Wood a couple times and the entire fan base thought he was not good enough, including me.

no players are getting better, everyone seems to be getting worse.

 

[John from Bootle]

Really?

They have some players better than ours

Aina
Wood
Gibbs White

I'm reluctant to put Hudson Odoi or Elanga on the list though as Dyche wouldn't use them properly or not use them at all, I feel someone like Lindstrum has similar assets if not more.

I've had this debate. I don't think there's a great deal of difference between us and Forest. They're more of a unit though. It won't be lost on you I'm sure that the players you've mentioned play in positions where we're sorely lacking. Most importantly for them, they have a no9 who is taking the chances he should take.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Lookman could have thrived here, so could players like Moise Kean and possibly Vlasic but realistically we haven’t got the culture/wherewithal or patience to give these players the time they need.

Do you mean Everton or the EPL because both Lookman and Vlasic didn’t pull up any trees at other EPL teams either, so certainly not an issue limited to Everton.
That both are looking good in Italy says more about the Italian league than them imo.

 

[Raino85]

funny how we were linked with Wood a couple times and the entire fan base thought he was not good enough, including me.

no players are getting better, everyone seems to be getting worse.

I think we all thought he was just a lumbering oaf!

Maybe it was his coach when he was at Burnley who didn't use him correctly?

 

[John from Bootle]

I think we all thought he was just a lumbering oaf!

Maybe it was his coach when he was at Burnley who didn't use him correctly?

He's yet to score more than his highest of 14 PL goals which he got at Burnley. Double figures every full season at Burnley.

 

[Raino85]

Do you mean Everton or the EPL because both Lookman and Vlasic didn’t pull up any trees at other EPL teams either, so certainly not an issue limited to Everton.
That both are looking good in Italy says more about the Italian league than them imo.

With Moise Kean's form for Fiorentina maybe Italian teams should just look at our recruitment policy from 2014-2018 and buy those players

 

[NathDogg]

I've already established that this is not strictly true Michael. I only used a sample size of one week like.

I'll use an even smaller sample size this week; West Ham used 4 subs, the last of whom came on in the 83rd minute. Granted we only used 2, but it was far from our strongest bench of the season. The last sample set of fixtures I used had Dyche using 4, 10 others using 5, some using 3, and Pep with a weak bench using 2.

Not saying he couldn't or shouldn't use more, but this thing of everybody is changing half their team for significant chunks of matches is just not true. Even when 5 subs are used it's normally that one was brought on very late.

It’s not just about using all 5 subs, though I really don’t understand why teams don’t do it more often, especially teams like ours who are without the ball for so much of the match and have ran themselves legless chasing shadows.

Wham had made their changes so didn’t need to use the 5th, as they were well on top in the game and the more likely to win, which they would have if Pickford hadn’t pulled off his heroics.

It’s not just about throwing more legs on whenever, it’s about game management to halt the oppositions momentum, about being proactive or even reacting to what your eyes are telling you, when many of our players are dead on their feet and breathing out of their arses, that’s what is totally frustrating with dyche.

He’s got pre planned subs and won’t deviate, same as his tactics, pathetic.

Our keeper was screaming at our bench for subs again at the weekend, it’s just embarrassing, and again we nearly threw the point away when we could have got all 3 with better game management.

 

[Carlito]

Full interview link

Considering how long he's been here without ever making noises about leaving, I wonder if he just loves depressing relegation football.