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2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

Not really. I dont think Beto is useless tbh, he just hasn't ben given a good chance.

my point is at least Dyche has options.
He has spent most of his time at the club without functioning full backs.

Beto aint good enough. To be fair neither are our other options if we are being honest and again it has been like this for years.
 
Well we had his pace for 2 yrs and Where did that get us. He’s atrocious, Harrison is a far better player, unfortunately dyche is playing him out of position

I mean he wasn't brilliant, but he scored 9 PL goals for us in 67 appearances (not sure how many he started) so why are you coming out with stuff like 'he only got 2 goals in his last 50'? His last 50 what?
 
The main differences are Lampard had Gordon, Gray, Godfrey, Mina, Iwobi, Onana.

Dyche has Young, Beto, Lindstrom, Harrison, Mangala and Ndiaye.

Can throw in Branthwaite as well I suppose but Lampard did have him and just chose to send him on loan. 4 of Lampards group went on to better sides, how many of the Dyches group will? 1?

Iwobi is so good he got a move to a better team for over 20 million, yes. And if Dyche wouldn't play him then that indicates that he really isn't a good manager.

Gray and Gordon were and are better wingers than Harrison, Lindstrom and Ndiaye yes. I like Ndiaye but for all the talk of his brilliance he's only scored 2 goals, no assists for the most toothless attack in the league. Gordon had 3 by this point in Lampards last season.
If you think gray is better than you need to follow another sport, gray was pants, he has pace and noting else had a little purple patch first 10 or so games, ended up with hardly any goals or assists in his last 50 games, his party trick was 3 step overs then boot it at the defender. And Gordon would have now been our best winger but not 2yrs ago at 20. Like I’ve just said, while Harrison is no world beater he got 21 goals on 16 assists off the left for Leeds. There’s a reason gray was sold for 1.7 mil to us
 

The main differences are Lampard had Gordon, Gray, Godfrey, Mina, Iwobi, Onana.

Dyche has Young, Beto, Lindstrom, Harrison, Mangala and Ndiaye.

Can throw in Branthwaite as well I suppose but Lampard did have him and just chose to send him on loan. 4 of Lampards group went on to better sides, how many of the Dyches group will? 1?

Iwobi is so good he got a move to a better team for over 20 million, yes. And if Dyche wouldn't play him then that indicates that he really isn't a good manager.

Gray and Gordon were and are better wingers than Harrison, Lindstrom and Ndiaye yes. I like Ndiaye but for all the talk of his brilliance he's only scored 2 goals, no assists for the most toothless attack in the league. Gordon had 3 by this point in Lampards last season.

Well you certainly didn’t rate those players when we had them. Using Ben Godfrey is really weird in particular as there’s 5 pages of you slating him weekly on here.



 
I mean he wasn't brilliant, but he scored 9 PL goals for us in 67 appearances (not sure how many he started) so why are you coming out with stuff like 'he only got 2 goals in his last 50'? His last 50 what?
His last 50 games, like I said he had a little purple patch early on, a couple of them 9 were pens I’d guess, as I think he took one in the Derby ?? And when we lost 4-1 to Brighton he scored a pen late on. He didn’t offer much from open play is my point, again he hardly got assists.
 
The main differences are Lampard had Gordon, Gray, Godfrey, Mina, Iwobi, Onana.

Dyche has Young, Beto, Lindstrom, Harrison, Mangala and Ndiaye.

Can throw in Branthwaite as well I suppose but Lampard did have him and just chose to send him on loan. 4 of Lampards group went on to better sides, how many of the Dyches group will? 1?

Iwobi is so good he got a move to a better team for over 20 million, yes. And if Dyche wouldn't play him then that indicates that he really isn't a good manager.

Gray and Gordon were and are better wingers than Harrison, Lindstrom and Ndiaye yes. I like Ndiaye but for all the talk of his brilliance he's only scored 2 goals, no assists for the most toothless attack in the league. Gordon had 3 by this point in Lampards last season.
This is the elephant in the room to a large extent. Exactly the same as you, I like him and he's a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of what we've had recently but... the whole idea that the squad has improved is basically just people acting as if he should be single handedly capable of taking us another couple of places higher in the league and the reality is there's very little to suggest he's even close to that level of player. I can't stress enough that i'm not trying to have a go at him, but people have gone massively overboard about him based off a couple of games.
 
This is the elephant in the room to a large extent. Exactly the same as you, I like him and he's a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of what we've had recently but... the whole idea that the squad has improved is basically just people acting as if he should be single handedly capable of taking us another couple of places higher in the league and the reality is there's very little to suggest he's even close to that level of player. I can't stress enough that i'm not trying to have a go at him, but people have gone massively overboard about him based off a couple of games.

He’s a number 10 playing as an auxiliary full back so I’m not at all surprised he’s only scored 2 goals.
 
Well you certainly didn’t rate those players when we had them. Using Ben Godfrey is really weird in particular as there’s 5 pages of you slating him weekly on here.



That a brilliant, it’s funny how players that have gone are now amazing. I’m having the same conversations about iwovi being our best midfielder apparently and wait for it, drum roll. Demarai Gray is a better winger than what we have now
 

Well you certainly didn’t rate those players when we had them. Using Ben Godfrey is really weird in particular as there’s 5 pages of you slating him weekly on here.



I think he's on your side Mike, we're getting into friendly fire territory here with the desperation to fight people.
 
Saturday could be Dyche's last game 🤔
If that happens...
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I think he's on your side Mike, we're getting into friendly fire territory here with the desperation to fight people.

I’m happy to call out rewriting of history on both sides to be honest. For fairness and all that.

It reads a lot like a defence of Dyche anyway, suggesting that Lampard had a far superior squad even though he hated all the players that played in it.
 

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