2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[matty1878]

*Pray

You mean pray Matty, prey means something else, and when taken out of context, could have, ummmm, vastly negative implications for you lad!

ffs i always balls it up

 

[matty1878]

"I'm not paying for another manager."

no but TFG are i wouldn’t worry

 

[matty1878]

I had my suspicions alright

im
in stitches

 

[Zatara]

Even after that, they still spent 40m net in the summer - Luis Sinisterra, Unal was another.

Last summer they spent £125m.

The summer before that £85m.

So thats £250m, net, spent by Bournemouth the past 3 years.

... by comparison, Everton are the only club in the Prem to record a positive net spend the last 5 years.

The last 4 of them years, we've recorded a profit.

Everton are also the only team in the Prem to record 3 successive summer windows making a profit.

A team, widely condemned as circling the drain.

We'll continue to do so until there's investment.

We can rant and rave at the manager, but it's ridiculous to ignore that fact.

15+ teams are in the £100m+ net spend territory - West Ham sit 6th for spend at nearly £300m. Forest 8th just short of £250m.

Our next opposition have spent nearly £600m on transfer fees alone, while Everton have made a profit.

That assumption is part of the problem.

People refuse to acknowledge the full picture if it in anyway can be interpreted as mitigation for Dyche.

Like I've said on here before Dyche, and will do if he leaves tomorrow. This Everton team are bang in trouble until it spends. Another manager might take us a few places higher, or a few places lower. But we're still down bottom half of the table when we have Mykolenko and Young at full back, with a front 3 of players who can't score goals.

I'm curious to know what would happen if TFG kept Dyche and Thelwell on and gave them £200mil to rebuild the squad.

Would be interesting to see what reasoning Dyche would have for probably playing the same way.

Have to say though that he does have a deck stacked against him.

Like tarks, I think he has been carrying an injury this season.

Defensively his stats last season were very good (in comparison to fullbacks in the PL.)

Compared to this season, something’s clearly changed. (Branthwaite being injured?, McNeil not in front of him? Injured?)

Last season
View attachment 283282

This season

View attachment 283284

Yes his performances last and this season are night and day.

 

[marnie]

Michael Balls column in the ECHO sums him up.

 

[Saint Domingo]

It is a fact. We were in a relegation scrap when he signed, and we are in a relegation scrap nearly 2 years later. This is by his own admission.
I'm not shouting at clouds lad, I'm pointlessly debating with pro Dyche people like yourself that for some unknown reason are content with him.

It is possible to simultaneously hold both thoughts that he did his job and that now the job is beyond him if we want to not be perennial relegation candidates. It's what most seem to keep saying to you tbh

Just saying it is a fact doesn’t make something a fact. 15 points after 20 games. 19th place. Points per game and league position have both gone up from when he arrived even in this poor season so far. So you can keep just throwing about assertions as to what I may or may not think (most of which are wrong) but the stats don’t back you up.

 

[Saint Domingo]

That was 2 years ago mate sorry, irrelevant.

But you’ve done nothing but go on about his time at Burnley 3 years ago?

 

[Cels]

It's good to see Sean Dyche getting the full backing of The Board before entering the 'December of Death' run of fixtures. Now we can concentrate on slamming some big hitters out of the park and moving up the table. COYB!
#Believe

​

 

[Zatara]

You'd think Dyche has the self awareness at this point to see the writing is on the wall.

The next games are basically a final roll of the dice for him.

He has nothing to lose...will he go for it?

 

[Clarky cat]

Michael Balls column in the ECHO sums him up.

 

[Toffeepot]

Just saying it is a fact doesn’t make something a fact. 15 points after 20 games. 19th place. Points per game and league position have both gone up from when he arrived even in this poor season so far. So you can keep just throwing about assertions as to what I may or may not think (most of which are wrong) but the stats don’t back you up.

is it the exact same points per game? No
Is it relegation battle to relegation battle yes. According to Dyche himself
That is not improvement after two years
That is one very low bar you have there, and frankly a bit pedantic in the debate

 

[MikeH72]

But you’ve done nothing but go on about his time at Burnley 3 years ago?

I mean I think I’ve gone on about his current failures plenty as well, but it’s not at all like you to make something up is it.

 

[MikeH72]

Just saying it is a fact doesn’t make something a fact. 15 points after 20 games. 19th place. Points per game and league position have both gone up from when he arrived even in this poor season so far. So you can keep just throwing about assertions as to what I may or may not think (most of which are wrong) but the stats don’t back you up.

If we left this fella in charge until the 20th game I can guarantee you we would not have 15 points.

 

[John from Bootle]

We’ve seen him have a selected handful of decent games, just like we did in the back end of Lampard’s first season when he scored that volley at Leicester, and at the start of the next season when our defence started off pretty solid.

Going back to Dyche, I think it’s extremely tough to argue that he’s improved a single one of our players as a footballer.

For me, he's been much more consistent under this manager. Sometimes, that's about all the improvement you're gonna get.

Dwight wasn't getting a game under Frank, Demarai Gray was, who many have told me isn't an upgrade on McNeil recently.

Doucoure was training with the kids. He managed to get more out of Godfrey. I've mentioned the others I've thought have done better than under previous managers.

You could question whether he's got the most out of DCL, and some people want to see Patterson, but he's just no good imo. Is he getting the most out of Harrison? Probably not, as we've seen him do better, but I don't see a whole host of players he's taken backwards.

 

[COYBL25]

The next games are basically a final roll of the dice for him.

He has nothing to lose...will he go for it?

Not a chance.

He’s just like Allardyce, he has one way of playing and one way only.