2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[nsno-chris]

Sean Dyche: “There is no evidence that Iliman Ndiaye can play in the number 10 role”

No Sean, there’s no evidence Michael Keane can play up top, but you did it

 

[DualityNSNO]

He did well at Saints. Not really arsed. He flushed a load of money down the toilet here.

So what's Dyche doing here that has you arsed, then?

Doing as poor as he did at Burnley, clearly showing that the 7th will never happen again and was a fluke, buying players he doesn't even play for arbitrary reasons, and finishing in the lower parts of the table and claiming improvement, while the football gets worse as time goes on.

We can be revisionist all you want and Koeman was/is a giant fat turd, but he got a deflated team that was midtable and on a downward spiral back to Europe while losing the best defender we had and getting Ashley Williams in return. We "improved" on the team by shuffling off permacrocked, cyclist's enemy, Gibson and getting Schneiderlin and Gueye in, in his first season, and Stekelenburg as a stop gap at GK, then getting Pickford, who is a permanent starter and one of the top reasons we're not down. We also did get Keane then though, has to be said, even though his stock was quite higher than it is now. He did get more or less the best out of that team in his first year, we had a poor run around this time which ultimately cost us 6th, but we were the genuine best of the rest together with United and had quite a few winning streaks.

He then went on a spree of getting central attacking mids for some reason, we lost Lukaku and replaced him with no one really, we didn't kick on, and he was rightly binned when the results suffered. That might also be karma for removing Prince Niasse's locker access though, we can't be sure. Or chatting bubbles about Barcelona, etc. etc.

 

[John from Bootle]

So what's Dyche doing here that has you arsed, then?

Doing as poor as he did at Burnley, clearly showing that the 7th will never happen again and was a fluke, buying players he doesn't even play for arbitrary reasons, and finishing in the lower parts of the table and claiming improvement, while the football gets worse as time goes on.

We can be revisionist all you want and Koeman was/is a giant fat turd, but he got a deflated team that was midtable and on a downward spiral back to Europe while losing the best defender we had and getting Ashley Williams in return. We "improved" on the team by shuffling off permacrocked, cyclist's enemy, Gibson and getting Schneiderlin and Gueye in, in his first season, and Stekelenburg as a stop gap at GK, then getting Pickford, who is a permanent starter and one of the top reasons we're not down. We also did get Keane then though, has to be said, even though his stock was quite higher than it is now. He did get more or less the best out of that team in his first year, we had a poor run around this time which ultimately cost us 6th, but we were the genuine best of the rest together with United and had quite a few winning streaks.

He then went on a spree of getting central attacking mids for some reason, we lost Lukaku and replaced him with no one really, we didn't kick on, and he was rightly binned when the results suffered. That might also be karma for removing Prince Niasse's locker access though, we can't be sure. Or chatting bubbles about Barcelona, etc. etc.

Dyche isn't currently doing anything I'm particularly happy with mate. Results need to improve. I respect the job he's done up to this point though. It's not like everybody was saying he had to go in the summer. He earned the right to start the season for me, but now it needs to improve, sharpish.

Be arsed talking about Koeman anymore, he was a disaster.

 

[Toffeelover]

He is a manager at Goodison Park but his mindset is in Turf Moor .

 

[Toffeelover]

Michael Ball's article had it spot on, a good read.

 

[matty1878]

Michael Ball's article had it spot on, a good read.

he rights tho for the red rag?

 

[Lob]

Moshiri only ever appointed 2 decent managers and Carlo was just a big name for the sake of it and finished poorly and just left and Silva was given up on too early imo. Koeman, Allardyce, Benitez, Lampard and Dyche are all as bad as one another and the epitome of Moshiri's disasterous, incompetent and self destructive reign.

I am looking forward to it ending and TFG's reign commencing. It is the only thing i have looked forward to in at least the last 8 years or more.

 

[matty1878]

Moshiri only ever appointed 2 decent managers and Carlo was just a big name for the sake of it and finished poorly and just left and Silva was given up on too early imo. Koeman, Allardyce, Benitez, Lampard and Dyche are all as bad as one another and the epitome of Moshiri's disasterous, incompetent and self destructive reign.

I am looking forward to it ending and TFG's reign commencing. It is the only thing i have looked forward to in at least the last 8 years or more.

100% mate

 

[MikeH72]

A Dychette: a season is 38 games long, it’s pointless judging a manager after half a season

Also that Dychette: Lampard failed to keep us up in 22/23 because he had 15 points after 20 games.

 

[NathDogg]

Michael Ball's article had it spot on, a good read.

He’s got it bang on, he’s called everything we were saying at the game on Saturday.
Predictable, slow, boring, percentage footy hoping for something to happen instead of making things happen.

Tbf to Ball, he’s been open in his criticism of Dyche for a while now when others have been silent.

 

[kiss the crest]

I hate all this comparison with dross managers to see how Dyche is doing.

How about the old days when we had ambition, let's compare Dyche to Kendall..... exactly different leagues one was a manager the other a glorified PE teacher

 

[kiss the crest]

He’s got it bang on, he’s called everything we were saying at the game on Saturday.
Predictable, slow, boring, percentage footy hoping for something to happen instead of making things happen.

Tbf to Ball, he’s been open in his criticism of Dyche for a while now when others have been silent.

their is only Ball out of ex players who has told it how it is, it's very silent from the boys from the 80s

 

[murphy89]

Something which i’m finding irritating with Dyche is he seems to be making changes to prove fans wrong rather than stick to his opinion. It’s costing us too.

He makes a comment about Ndiaye not being a number 10. Then switches him to 10 in the next game, which then results in him getting crowded out and having a poorer game.

Down to 10, everyone knew Brentford would sit in and it’s common knowledge they’re very good at defending crosses into the box. It wasn’t the time to switch him inside, he should have kept him outside cutting and offering a different approach to the right side. Instead, we ended up with McNeil attempting balls into DCL which he wasn’t winning.

He’s done similar before with going 442 with DCL and Beto, despite it clearly not working and therefore couldn’t have worked in the training.

it was really poor management on Saturday and it felt like some decisions where in response to criticism and that’s dodgy ground. He seems them week in week out, he should stick to his guns if that’s what he believes and sees as the best route.

 

[bcblue1878]

Are we really claiming he's been worse than Koeman?

Really?

Bolasie - 28 million

Rooney - 11 million

Williams - 12 million

Gylfi - 45 million

Keane - 27 million

Klassen - 25 million

Martina - free

Sandro - Free

On top of Pickford, Gueye, Lookman, and Vlasic.

Imagine spending all that, on that list of players, and then 'solving' your full back issues with bargain bucket Martina

What an absolute clown. We've still not recovered from his disastrous splurge.

We’ll never know what really went on that summer, but if the rumours were anything like true, Koeman, Walsh and Kenwright were all spending Uzmanov’s money like little kids in a sweet shop, a lot of it on players that hung around like a bad smell and ultimately we got little or nothing back for when they did eventually move on!
The club has never properly recovered from that disastrous summer!

 

[MikeH72]

Something which i’m finding irritating with Dyche is he seems to be making changes to prove fans wrong rather than stick to his opinion. It’s costing us too.

He makes a comment about Ndiaye not being a number 10. Then switches him to 10 in the next game, which then results in him getting crowded out and having a poorer game.

Down to 10, everyone knew Brentford would sit in and it’s common knowledge they’re very good at defending crosses into the box. It wasn’t the time to switch him inside, he should have kept him outside cutting and offering a different approach to the right side. Instead, we ended up with McNeil attempting balls into DCL which he wasn’t winning.

He’s done similar before with going 442 with DCL and Beto, despite it clearly not working and therefore couldn’t have worked in the training.

it was really poor management on Saturday and it felt like some decisions where in response to criticism and that’s dodgy ground. He seems them week in week out, he should stick to his guns if that’s what he believes and sees as the best route.

It smacks more of a manager that is completely out of ideas and just guessing and hoping some mud he slings at the wall sticks. That’s when you truly know a manager is done. I can’t see us picking up another point under him. Sunday is as nailed on a defeat as there can be, then I think that Wolves game under the lights will be a toxic bombshell if he’s still here. Can see it being like when we played them under Lampard, a clueless display and they eventually nick a late winner descending the place into chaos. If he’s still our manager after that game then we are on for an almighty death spiral with the fixtures immediately after that.