2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[SJB]

I'm not saying it would be a deciding factor, but I would be very suprised if there wasn't someone or a team tasked with getting an understanding of how the fans feel about the club, the manager etc.

"The fans" who's opinions will matter to the paymasters aren't the windbags spending all day every day bickering on a forum.

 

[DualityNSNO]

"The fans" who's opinions will matter to the paymasters aren't the windbags spending all day every day bickering on a forum.

Ah so we're not true fans now too

 

[SJB]

Ah so we're not true fans now too

*paying fans

You've completely missed the point.

 

[DualityNSNO]

*paying fans

You've completely missed the point.

No I haven't, it's just a silly point on both sides here. You've just come on and put it as "the fans" about people who are unhappy.

Very chicoazul as a move, to be honest.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Those 838 posts aren’t defending his honour though are they?

Is it worth all those posts to get him out of the football club? Yes it is.

Giving yourself a lot of credit here

 

[Marius57]

No I haven't, it's just a silly point on both sides here. You've just come on and put it as "the fans" about people who are unhappy.

Very chicoazul as a move, to be honest.

He is a self admitted wum. I wouldn’t worry about it.

It’s also a silly point because there’s a 20k waiting list for season tickets of current non ‘paying fans’. At some points they will become ‘paying fans’ so would be silly to ignore their views as well.

 

[Marius57]

Ye and Lampard was a card carrying tory but everybody just shouted NICE GUY at me when I said that. Stick to beat Dyche with, but Lampard 'nice guy, just didn't work for him'

I made the thatcher comment a bit tongue in cheek really, that’s why I put the laughing emoji. I don’t really care what their political leanings are which I quantified with the next part.

Funny how presenting as a nice person and not making comments about fans can make people like you

 

[Toffeepot]

"The fans" who's opinions will matter to the paymasters aren't the windbags spending all day every day bickering on a forum.

No, that's true ultimately
But they are still getting a feel for the mood from them

 

[twoblue]

Dear Mike,

Is Sean Mark Dyche worth all of this?
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Jeez, how do you put food on the table lads?

 

[twoblue]

Those 838 posts aren’t defending his honour though are they?

Is it worth all those posts to get him out of the football club? Yes it is.

yeah mate, you are a pretty big factor in the things.
Just checking are you a pretty big factor in chosing the next manager?

There is a huge difference. They can both say they were in a relegation fight when they got here, because it was a fact.
Dyche constantly talked about changing the narrative, but when he improved on the points total in his second year, got far more players and time than Lampard got to put his own stamp on things he completely gave up the changing of the narrative and decided to reinforce the narrative this season by telling his players they're crap and belong in a relegation scrap. Because he belongs in a relegation scrap, it's where he is at home.

He also acts like he's seen it all and knows it all and doesn't take responsibilty, but Lampard acknowledged he had a lot to learn and often took responsibility. People respond to things like that, I know I do. Lampard is just far more likeable than Dyche and liked and respected the fans way more than Dyche does.

Dyche did his job, not saying he didn't, it doesn't make him more likeable though. Now he's going backwards and doesn't care about 'the narrative', the fans or the club, just his own rep.

lol this is an argument about what’s best… poo sandwich or poo pie.
Both men aren’t going to be down as great Everton managers but both have in charge during the shocking period of ownership. I think quite rightly they can say the club deteriorated over a decade whoever was in charge.
I agree Dyche has so far done his job, but isn’t a great ambassador. But if the man hasn’t got a contract beyond the season he does have to protect his own interests.
The club ownership is a disgrace.

 

[MikeH72]

Dying on the hill of SEAN DYCHE in big massive 2024. Where is the self respect honestly?

 

[Abertonian]

Anyway big game Sunday. Need the points really.

Don’t let us down Sean.

I'm sure he'll do us proud with his tin opener to a gunfight approach

 

[John from Bootle]

Dying on the hill of SEAN DYCHE in big massive 2024. Where is the self respect honestly?

People have literally done exactly the same thing for a worse manager in Frank (myself included btw). Were you asking them where their self respect was for backing the worst manager we've had this side of our last trophy?

 

[MikeH72]

People have literally done exactly the same thing for a worse manager in Frank (myself included btw). Were you asking them where their self respect was for backing the worst manager we've had this side of our last trophy?

I don’t think anyone did this at all. Go back to after the Brighton game under him, you’ll do well to find a single person who wasn’t questioning why he was still in place.

The defence of Dyche on here is cult like. It’s very unsettling and weird.

 

[John from Bootle]

I don’t think anyone did this at all. Go back to after the Brighton game under him, you’ll do well to find a single person who wasn’t questioning why he was still in place.

People were still making excuses for him in November/World Cup. I was personally done with him after Boxing Day, but if you want to pretend that people turning on him after the 4-1 home defeat to Brighton on the 3 January meant he didn't get a lot of backing from certain posters who like to ridicule a better manager in Dyche, then I don't know what to say.