2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[Curtis]

Who keeps selecting those same players that scuff the rare chances we have and does nothing to alter the composition for a player to be able just put in a cracker shot even if doesn't come off there would be a ricchochet a player in an advanced position could take advantage of but we usually don't have numbers when we attack or close on goal

 

[Armaghtoffee]

@COYBL25 sorry about my outburst yesterday against you just came in never understood the thread had a bad day heath wise thought you were having a go at @matty1878 & I was so wrong reading the thread back ...

Hope you are feeling better today Joey.

 

[Leylo]

City or anyone the facts don't live 8 wins in a calendar year his squad is limited but in August he & the direrector of football- I admit on restricted money selected the present squad of players so they are both culpable- youth players sold or not used same old same old - sorry not good enough IMO!

Maybe joey but last 3 results decent only for Harrison could of won 2 of them..

 

[matty1878]

his record is utter appalling

which has seen other managers lashed

be will be soon

 

[Joey66]

Maybe joey but last 3 results decent only for Harrison could of won two of them.

So extra points tossed away then ....4 points....I don't care who the opposition is - as we have tossed points away v lesser teams - the Dyche way - his only way he knows .... even his substitutions are like for like - no reorganisation or plan B - he only knows hoof ball ....

 

[Leylo]

So extra points tossed away then ....4 points....I don't care who the opposition is - as we have tossed points away v lesser teams - the Dyche way - his only way he knows .... even his substitutions are like for like - no reorganisation or plan B - he only knows hoof ball ....

I'm not saying I am fan of his but our bench isn't great so were do you go ffs.. any other time them last 3 games we get slapped 3 + imo... couple of players individual decisions cost us imo

 

[Joey66]

I'm not saying I am fan of his but our bench isn't great so were do you go ffs.. any other time them last 3 games we get slapped 3 + imo... couple of players individual decisions cost us imo

There are permutations on our bench when we don't have two goalkeepers sat on it - how negative can a manager be?

 

[Leylo]

There are permutations on our bench when we don't have two goalkeepers sat on it - how negative can a manager be?

We have Fellini and latchford back that's great news

 

[windymiller]

You’d like that to be case, but in reality it isn’t.

Maybe read the posts as they actually are rather than what you’d like to them to be to suit your weird little agendas.

Perhaps in the future when AI bots have become more advance you’ll be able to recognise context.

Ha ha, everybody who disagrees with you (most people) are bots? It's a pretty reductive way to approach a disagreement with someone but I suppose you're a reductive kind of guy.

Anyway, 17 points from 17 games, 15 goals scored, only 3 wins, it's not really good enough, is it? Do you still think we'll get more points than last season? That was your stated goal at the start of the season.

 

[twoblue]

City or anyone the facts don't live 8 wins in a calendar year his squad is limited but in August he & the direrector of football- I admit on restricted money selected the present squad of players so they are both culpable- youth players sold or not used same old same old - sorry not good enough IMO!

I'll level with you. People are shouting about the wins; Im not even that bothered about "wins" when we are getting decent results in the form of draws. Chelsea, Man City and Arsental and we haven't been beat.I reckon we have a poor team, with no goal threat, and our best way to secure points to be in the Premier League without the ability to invest in quality is to make us difficult to beat.

I can tell you now, there is no one in the squad that we can rely on to regularly pop up with goals... (if I am wrong tell me who?)

So if we played more expansive football with this squad with fluff, more chances than we would take - look at the chances we had to win against Chelsea and Man City; the opposition would also get more chances than us and likely score some.
More expansive football would be likely to result in more losses. Fact, and very few wins. We would get relegated.

Anyone that thinks differently, think about that first few games under Lampard's shackles off caught Brentford and Leeds unaware, but after that, we became weaker and weaker once teams worked out. We had such a poor threat that was predictable.

Until we invest in this squad I am think Dyche has got the best tune this instrument can play.

 

[twoblue]

There are permutations on our bench when we don't have two goalkeepers sat on it - how negative can a manager be?

Lets face it... you are trying to point the figure at Dyche here but clearly this shows how weak the squad.

Accept we have a poor team and acknowledge that he is doing a good job. Thats all you need to do to become a Dychestte. See the bigger picture.

You can even say that when the investment comes in, Dyche may leave.

No one is asking for Dyche forever.

 

[MikeH72]

Lets face it... you are trying to point the figure at Dyche here but clearly this shows how weak the squad.

Accept we have a poor team and acknowledge that he is doing a good job. Thats all you need to do to become a Dychestte. See the bigger picture.

You can even say that when the investment comes in, Dyche may leave.

No one is asking for Dyche forever.

But we are 9 points worse off than this stage last season so he’s not doing a good job is he?

 

[twoblue]

It’s like everything else mate, practice makes perfect. If they constantly train on fitness and very little technical training with the ball, then yes they won’t be as good, but if they are constantly training and practicing with the ball, and at pace then they will rediscover that muscle memory to control it better. I remember a critique of the Martinez years was that a lot of the training was with the ball and so general fitness suffered which showed in games.

Was interesting to read a headline on a website today, where Gakpo and Salah confirmed that all they do is practice certain shots from outside the box and Gakpo scored from one yesterday. Beckham used to be stay behind and have a the hanging from under the cross bar, and would try and get the ball through the tyre. George Graham used to tie string around the waists of his back four so they would be aligned. There are little techniques in training which can allow players to perform better.

The history of football is littered with footballing anecdotes about players practising certain skills in training - I would be highly surprised if that level of detail formed any part of the training, with us (whether with Dyche or even before him)

That myth always irks me i get some players struggle technically like Doucoure but even when he was at watford he was never as errant with the ball as he is here. Even Eddie howe's bournemouth weren't that talented as a squad but could kick around the ball , I know everton fans love to be critical of the squad and sometimes rightfully so , but they're professional premier league footballers except for maybe Keane and Holgate who should have enough ability if property managed and instructed to play basic football it's not our players that decide to have 20% possession a game that's by dyche's edict as its not that he doesn't even trust the players that exactly how he prefers to play. It's a philosophical tenet for dyche

Most adult footballers are not going to practise their touch. Our squad is full of elite sportsmen in that they are professionals, but they all have weaknesses and strengths.

Our squad is strong on tactical awareness and defensvice. But the squad is weak in pace and attacking areas.
We are training our strengths.

Carlos Ancelotti saw this. FSW saw this. Lampard tried to get us to play more expansive football the players just were good enough.

No amount of Rondo and dribbling around cones is going mean we can out play arsenal, Chelsea and man city.

 

[twoblue]

But we are 9 points worse off than this stage last season so he’s not doing a good job is he?

Morning mike. You are a golfer?

Had a good round last season. He's playing to his handicap this season but I recon he showing sign of doing better moving forward. This season, he is also playing with a driver and a seven iron that are refusing to commit to the bag next season. His putter he got off his nan and is 100 years old. A lot of his other clubs are things he bought from a second-hand shop just so he has enough clubs to play with.

If he got a brand new set of clubs in January, he might be expected to play better.

 

[mahermi1]

Lets face it... you are trying to point the figure at Dyche here but clearly this shows how weak the squad.

Accept we have a poor team and acknowledge that he is doing a good job. Thats all you need to do to become a Dychestte. See the bigger picture.

You can even say that when the investment comes in, Dyche may leave.

No one is asking for Dyche forever.

So you agree with him having 2 goalkeepers on the bench ? Why not play one of the kids and become a little more progressive. People wonder why our youngsters get off first chance they get and then them youngsters see 2 goalkeepers on the bench and must think why stay. He is the most unimaginative manager we've ever had. The last 3 or 4 results have been good, but sooner or later we are going to have to turn some of these draws to wins.