2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[blueboy72]

We have reached the limit of where we can go with this level of investment.
Dyche, and every other manager you are incapable of naming would struggle year on year.
Investment is needed before a manager.

There are teams challenging the top 6 with 1/4 of the investment of the teams around them. Brighton have a debt on spending of about 40mil in 5yrs and have been top 6. And all these teams do it by playing much better football than we do. It’s a myth that you need 100’s of millions to play better football and compete in the top half

 

[Marius57]

Morning mike. You are a golfer?

Had a good round last season. He's playing to his handicap this season but I recon he showing sign of doing better moving forward. This season, he is also playing with a driver and a seven iron that are refusing to commit to the bag next season. His putter he got off his nan and is 100 years old. A lot of his other clubs are things he bought from a second-hand shop just so he has enough clubs to play with.

If he got a brand new set of clubs in January, he might be expected to play better.

Probably should get some lessons before new clubs. If playing to his handicap currently, then he really needs to work on his swing.

 

[twoblue]

What is it with all of the anti-Dyches towing a party line of…
“We want Dyche out, but I do not have an option on who should replace him, because it’s not my decision’”.

It’s potentially the wettest take I have ever heard.

All I read is: “I want Dyche out because we are not as good as the other teams my friends support, that makes me angry and I know nothing about football”

Join the dots… you want dyche in because you think “x” will do better.

If these guys come in and invest in a striker, a midfielder, couple of full back, and some pace on the wing… I’d take any number of managers. potter, franks. Even a risk on someone like Davide Ancelotti. Not sure I would make all these changes mid-season.

With this current squad I have not heard anyone tell me a better option.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

What is it with all of the anti-Dyches towing a party line of…
“We want Dyche out, but I do not have an option on who should replace him, because it’s not my decision’”.

It’s potentially the wettest take I have ever heard.

All I read is: “I want Dyche out because we are not as good as the other teams my friends support, that makes me angry and I know nothing about football”

Join the dots… you want dyche in because you think “x” will do better.

If these guys come in and invest in a striker, a midfielder, couple of full back, and some pace on the wing… I’d take any number of managers. potter, franks. Even a risk on someone like Davide Ancelotti. Not sure I would make all these changes mid-season.

With this current squad I have not heard anyone tell me a better option.

That's a wild leap that even Saint Domingo would be proud of. If you're happy with how our club is going, good for you. You've just typed paragraphs of "I'm a superfan" without actually saying anything.

Lots of us level headed posters aren't even Anti Dyche, we acknowledge the job he's done in trying times, whilst also acknowledging that hitting higher goals is beyond him.

 

[twoblue]

That's a wild leap that even Saint Domingo would be proud of. If you're happy with how our club is going, good for you. You've just typed paragraphs of "I'm a superfan" without actually saying anything.

It’s a forum. Have an opinion. Join the debate… have punt on how you would improved the situation if you were in charge.
“Yeah but Dyche…” isn’t an opinion.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

It’s a forum. Have an opinion. Join the debate… have punt on how you would improved the situation if you were in charge.
“Yeah but Dyche…” isn’t an opinion.

Might wanna read the rest of my post. I could name other managers who could do better, but would they come here? Would they leave their job for this? Are we attractive? It's also another thread not the Sean Dyche one.

 

[Blue peter]

Most adult footballers are not going to practise their touch. Our squad is full of elite sportsmen in that they are professionals, but they all have weaknesses and strengths.

Our squad is strong on tactical awareness and defensvice. But the squad is weak in pace and attacking areas.
We are training our strengths.

Carlos Ancelotti saw this. FSW saw this. Lampard tried to get us to play more expansive football the players just were good enough.

No amount of Rondo and dribbling around cones is going mean we can out play arsenal, Chelsea and man city.

Oh yeah because I was only thinking about just those 3 games - sports and practice their craft all the time. Athletes, tennis players etc. golf players for instance always adjust and practice their swing. According to you however professionally footballers won’t practice their control, passing dribbling etc because their professionals even though football is littered with stories about just that.

 

[allen]

It’s a forum. Have an opinion. Join the debate… have punt on how you would improved the situation if you were in charge.
“Yeah but Dyche…” isn’t an opinion.

It’s perfectly possible to recognise that Dyche doesn’t have what it takes to break our perennial circling of the drain while not having a clue who should replace him.

It’s not a rule that you have to have fully formed opinion on everything. Doubt is okay.

 

[twoblue]

Might wanna read the rest of my post. I could name other managers who could do better, but would they come here? Would they leave their job for this? Are we attractive? It's also another thread not the Sean Dyche one.

*Back tracks slowly and begrudgingly acknowledges we are on the same page…
Dyche is for this squad. Job well done. owners now to put a project plan and investment together that goes beyond Dyche.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

*Back tracks slowly and begrudgingly acknowledges we are on the same page…
Dyche is for this squad. Job well done. owners now to put a project plan and investment together that goes beyond Dyche.

I never said we weren't on a similar page, you've come for an argument after I made a quip about your golf analogy. If you bothered to read through this thread over the season you'd have known that. Where we differ is that you think he should be given a chance with investment. Agree to disagree on that.

 

[twoblue]

It’s perfectly possible to recognise that Dyche doesn’t have what it takes to break our perennial circling of the drain while not having a clue who should replace him.

It’s not a rule that you have to have fully formed opinion on everything. Doubt is okay.

But you should acknowledge that things could get worse. And that maybe is keeping us circling the drain is actually better than us being in the drain than a bad recruit at this stage could do.

I never said we weren't on a similar page, you've come for an argument after I made a quip about your golf analogy. If you bothered to read through this thread over the season you'd have known that.

Yep…I just back tracked. I was acknowledging my error…

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

But you should acknowledge that things could get worse. And that maybe is keeping us circling the drain is actually better than us being in the drain than a bad recruit at this stage could do.

Yep…I just back tracked. I was acknowledging my error…

My apologies, missread too.

 

[allen]

But you should acknowledge that things could get worse. And that maybe is keeping us circling the drain is actually better than us being in the drain than a bad recruit at this stage could do.

I agree.

And the enormity of that decision is something I know I don’t have the knowledge to make.

What I do know is that watching Everton set out every game with an inferiority complex, looking to contain the opposition above all else, is soul-crushing.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Ha ha, everybody who disagrees with you (most people) are bots? It's a pretty reductive way to approach a disagreement with someone but I suppose you're a reductive kind of guy.

Anyway, 17 points from 17 games, 15 goals scored, only 3 wins, it's not really good enough, is it? Do you still think we'll get more points than last season? That was your stated goal at the start of the season.

Not everyone, just those who struggle to understand context like you, and the term is crybot, for all the whinging that accompanies your addled ramblings.

 

[twoblue]

Probably should get some lessons before new clubs. If playing to his handicap currently, then he really needs to work on his swing.

You know Dyche has his name on the wall from playing percentage golf. Never a full swing, never 3 off the tee, takes his medicine.
It’s unexciting… but we have seen the state of his clubs