2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

[SuperKev91]

Its been an ongoing argument on here for some time now, you have the 'look at this shower, whats he supposed to do' camp. And you have the , 'he should be getting more out of the decent players we have'

Personally i'm in the latter, its obvious we aren't top 8/10 but again, going back to Forest........i wouldnt call there back 6/7 better than ours, i'd even argue man for man, ours is better. They have quality (or pace) going forward, and seem to have patterns of play which we don't have, apart from 'lump it down the line'

Pickford - England number 1, played in 2 international finals, seen by most as our 2nd best ever goalie
Young - Experienced PL performer, legs are obviously not there, but offers alot
Tarkowski - Seasoned PL centre back who should of been picked by England based on last seasons form, involved in 12 clean sheets in his last 25 games
Branthwaite - Future England regular, probably would be already if it wasn't for injury
Myko - Ukraine international (best i can say)
Gana - Experienced midfielder, who still has legs and has played at the highest level
Mangala - £25m midfielder, has been very good for us since he got in the team
Doucoure - can score a goal, we dont tend to win games without him
Harrison - Nice hair
N’Diaye - A box of tricks, Morgan Gibbs White shown at the weekend what a man of quality can do in a central position
Broja - Albanian international, been unlucky with injury's, has all the tools to do well in the right team

Love the optimism mate but they’re miles better man for man. And their bench is too.

 

[MikeH72]

@Saint Domingo we see you viewing this thread. Step up and defend your man, you were quick enough to come in here gloating about the draws and calling everyone crybots.

 

[SuperKev91]

@Saint Domingo we see you viewing this thread. Step up and defend your man, you were quick enough to come in here gloating about the draws and calling everyone crybots.

Honestly praying he just gets bingoed this week and we can close this cursed chapter .

 

[Tipp blue]

Has he been sacked yet?

 

[Blue peter]

That is a very very different story to what many many posters who were hammering me when I was posting Dyche was here to stay before they took over.... "They`ll sack him the moment they come in", "Look what they are doing at Roma" blah blah blah

Looks like I was right again... becoming a too frequent trend!

I didn`t expect them to, in fact I was the only one posting that they wouldn`t but I would have thought they`d have been monitoring the results and the situation prior to taking over and be ready to act. It seems they aren`t as great as everyone is making out, they`ll stick with Dyche no matter what is posted on here or protests happen, they wont care.

They’ve been in 2 weeks FFS…no one knows what they’ll do including you

 

[Blue toffee]

Love the optimism mate but they’re miles better man for man. And their bench is too.

They are comfortably better than us, without being particularly great.

 

[Blue peter]

We’re so predictable

The thread or the team?

 

[ForeverEverton]

They’ve been in 2 weeks FFS…no one knows what they’ll do including you

Correct... but we know what they`ve done on the footballing side, nothing... despite it being glaringly obvious that they need to...

More absent owners for us I`m afraid, probably not what you want to hear but clearly this is what we`ve got.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I saw about 42 - 45 points as a realistic, achievable and fair target for the team this season.

The manager is not on course to achieve that and we are right in a relegation battle again. Now that the ownership issue is resolved, I see no strong argument against making a change.

 

[mahermi1]

Pretty conclusive from looking with my eyes and judging what they’ve all done elsewhere.

Done this before but;
Pickford - good goalie
Young - 40
Tarkowski - career circling the plug, average at best
Branthwaite - very talented
Myko - worst lb we’ve ever had
Gana - 35?
Mangala - our opponents yesterday binned him after battling relegation
Doucoure - career circling the plug, average is too kind
Harrison - see above
N’Diaye - talented but struggled in France, had a good season in the championship
Broja - remember them 6 goals for Southampton?


Am I genuinely missing something gents?! How is anyone defending this shower? Is it clutching at straws? Surely other people can see that both manager and players are crap.

When a managers go to players are Doucoure, finished but always plays a key position, he offers nothing if he doesn't score the odd goal and I can't remember the last goal he's scored. Harrison the same, no pace or invention equals send back to Leeds asap, do not buy. Dyche is clueless, this team has no idea how to attack, it relies solely on defence and breakaways which hardly ever happen due to a chronic lack of pace or invention and set pieces which are few and far between. We've scored 15 goals in 18 games absolutely atrocious and all this management can offer us is safety, the football is atrocious, when did that become acceptable to Everton football club. Sack the Manager, who admitted yesterday the players didn't listen to him anyway. Buy a couple of decent speedy attacking players, Lord knows we've let enough of our better players go and get a decent, progressive manager/ coach in that can get us an identity/ a better way of playing in a system that suits us. Not easy but new owners, more money and better decision makers may help.

 

[Blue peter]

I think people may have a little more sympathy if he showed more tactical nous by trying different players in different formations based, he does none of that.

 

[pfim]

Its been an ongoing argument on here for some time now, you have the 'look at this shower, whats he supposed to do' camp. And you have the , 'he should be getting more out of the decent players we have'

Personally i'm in the latter, its obvious we aren't top 8/10 but again, going back to Forest........i wouldnt call there back 6/7 better than ours, i'd even argue man for man, ours is better. They have quality (or pace) going forward, and seem to have patterns of play which we don't have, apart from 'lump it down the line'

Pickford - England number 1, played in 2 international finals, seen by most as our 2nd best ever goalie
Young - Experienced PL performer, legs are obviously not there, but offers alot
Tarkowski - Seasoned PL centre back who should of been picked by England based on last seasons form, involved in 12 clean sheets in his last 25 games
Branthwaite - Future England regular, probably would be already if it wasn't for injury
Myko - Ukraine international (best i can say)
Gana - Experienced midfielder, who still has legs and has played at the highest level
Mangala - £25m midfielder, has been very good for us since he got in the team
Doucoure - can score a goal, we dont tend to win games without him
Harrison - Nice hair
N’Diaye - A box of tricks, Morgan Gibbs White shown at the weekend what a man of quality can do in a central position
Broja - Albanian international, been unlucky with injury's, has all the tools to do well in the right team

Only two walk into that Forest squad, Pickford and Branthwaite. Otherwise, maybe Ndiaye is on the fringes. Mangala literally wouldn't start for them last year when they were 17th. It's a very myopic view of our squad.

That doesn't mean that Dyche keeping up his end of the bargain, but this collection of players is bad. It's both, that's the camp everyone should be in.

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Has he been sacked yet?
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NO...

 

[ForeverEverton]

I saw about 42 - 45 points as a realistic, achievable and fair target for the team this season.

The manager is not on course to achieve that and we are right in a relegation battle again. Now that the ownership issue is resolved, I see no strong argument against making a change.

Correct, the Dyche luvvies can argue all they want for their ginger messiah but fact is last season we got 48 points, he has strengthened the side to the tune of £50m whilst only losing Onana who he didn`t play at the end of last season and we will fall massively short of that this season.

In short... just so the Dychettes understand...

48 points last season
Spend £50 on new players
Regress this season to fighting relegation and on course to finish with 34 points or less

The sooner the club get past this prehistoric manager the better, and for those defending him to say its all on the players, was it the players that got us 48 points. If you are suggesting the players are to blame this season they must have been to blame last season.

You can`t have it both ways....

 

[Tipp blue]

I saw about 42 - 45 points as a realistic, achievable and fair target for the team this season.

The manager is not on course to achieve that and we are right in a relegation battle again. Now that the ownership issue is resolved, I see no strong argument against making a change.

Apart from the fact that we are playing gash football, he sticks 1 man up front every game despite the fact that we don't have any forwards capable of playing that roll. He never changes things until 70 minutes when it's too late and the changes he does make are baffling.
Lastly it's Sean Dyche he's not a good manager he's never been a good manager he never will be a good manager, he needs punting sharpish.