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2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

■ CEO search a priority■ Lack of a permanent CEO will not preclude TFG from making big decisions on Dyche■ Pacy right winger and full-back a priority in the transfer window■ Interest in Keane, O'Brien and Beto

Is that not the meat?

'Meat' is fresh material from people who are involved in the governance of the club (difficult because they have their own comms departments they'll use) or people connected to those involved in governance (more attainable you'd think).

That's why I'd rather listen to what The Bobble has to say on any issue rather than Boyland or O'Keeffe etc, because The Bobble has anonymity and can, unfettered, pass on the general thinking of those in power at the club. A reporter like Boyland is hired because he knows the culture of EFC and fan mindset and he'll write with that in mind and come across as an expert on the club. He's not. He's an archivist.
 
Of course that is possible, it's the question who you want to get. Outside the prem there are many good candidates surely willing to join an exciting project in the most attractive league in the world.

If it's someone within the prem like Iraola or Frank that I see as valid candidates. They won't come mid season to join Everton from clubs in a better situation currently. They get a lot out of their club, but also they have a smaller ceiling by nature and might be convinced to join a club with more financial possibilities and higher wage for themselves. I think they are rather more realistic to get in summer.
We need to recruit from overseas as a given, the former policy really didn't work for us. In fact they wouldn't join us anyway if they are in a better position! But an entire continent of managers out there , plus the draw of moving to this league makes it much easier in our current potential future. If it was march/April time then it would be a different story but it's half way through the season, plenty of time left to go.
 
'Meat' is fresh material from people who are involved in the governance of the club (difficult because they have their own comms departments they'll use) or people connected to those involved in governance (more attainable you'd think).

That's why I'd rather listen to what The Bobble has to say on any issue rather than Boyland or O'Keeffe etc, because The Bobble has anonymity and can, unfettered, pass on the general thinking of those in power at the club. A reporter like Boyland is hired because he knows the culture of EFC and fan mindset and he'll write with that in mind and come across as an expert on the club. He's not. He's an archivist.
I think its dangerous to just listen to 1 POV on any issue.

Bobble has his niche and the likes of Boyland have theres.

I find his pieces interesting, you dont, thats cool.
 
I think its dangerous to just listen to 1 POV on any issue.

Bobble has his niche and the likes of Boyland have theres.

I find his pieces interesting, you dont, thats cool.

Ok.

But my point stands, I think.

You saw over Headlock Gate which side the Boyland and O'Keeffe bread is buttered on when push comes to shove.
 

Fly in the ointment to a lot of that mate is he's off in a few months, and his players, half of which aren't invested in Everton next season, are also off.

Small margins down there, that doesn't help and when you think of recruitment - how many are going to want to sign for a manager who they know is leaving a few months later?

TFG have to back or sack him.
Or they gamble on a dead man walking being able to get enough out of a very mediocre team to stay up ( or that there are 3 worse teams ).

I know what I'd do and Sean wouldn't manage another game for us if I had my way
 
A LOT of people had the wool pulled over their eyes with that.

When a CEO of a PL club says something, you report it as fact, I think thats a given.

To be fair, the majority of people dialed it back.

A CEO with zero credibility like DBB.

They didn't have the wool pulled over their eyes, mate. Their job is to report without critique and get their wages secured.

You're naive to think otherwise.
 
A CEO with zero credibility like DBB.

They didn't have the wool pulled over their eyes, mate. Their job is to report without critique and get their wages secured.

You're naive to think otherwise.
To be honest, at that point, the fanbase was pretty feral.

Chasing players down the street, having a pop of Directors, so it wasnt really all wrong.

Anyway, im not here to defend Boyland, I enjoy his pieces, they give a degree of insight, better than reading the totally made up bull from somebody like that MSIDouglas clown.
 

To be honest, at that point, the fanbase was pretty feral.

Chasing players down the street, having a pop of Directors, so it wasnt really all wrong.

Anyway, im not here to defend Boyland, I enjoy his pieces, they give a degree of insight, better than reading the totally made up bull from somebody like that MSIDouglas clown.
It's true - the context was a confrontational one. I'll hand you that.

Dont get me wrong, these lads reporting are late 20s / early 30s. They've got a good gig going there and they'll secure it over and above being critical of a misgoverned club. I get it.

Let's not say they're any more than people who arrange a story so that owners look acceptable/good though.
 
'Meat' is fresh material from people who are involved in the governance of the club (difficult because they have their own comms departments they'll use) or people connected to those involved in governance (more attainable you'd think).

That's why I'd rather listen to what The Bobble has to say on any issue rather than Boyland or O'Keeffe etc, because The Bobble has anonymity and can, unfettered, pass on the general thinking of those in power at the club. A reporter like Boyland is hired because he knows the culture of EFC and fan mindset and he'll write with that in mind and come across as an expert on the club. He's not. He's an archivist.
It’s very clear there is a brief this week, Boyland, athletic, SSN and the Echo all had whispers to but a bit of pressure on Dyche - all in the same week, practically on the same day wasn’t it? Monday.

The axe is being sharpened but it’s not ready to chop just yet IMO.
 
I've been thinking about this a lot since the Bournemouth game. Originally I believed that match was Dyches last chance. He lost it and it was a poor display.

However I'm starting to think that if we could just provide Dyche with a couple new players, then I believe he will keep us up. And if he finishes the season more stylishly and gets up the xg and goals while keeping the xg against as it is then he could still lead us forward.

When thinking of alternatives to him, Moyes is by far the safest option as he knows the club, will have been watching all Everton games so will know their strengths and weaknesses and has a very strong track record and is perhaps an upgrade on Dyche in that he would do better in the easier games that Dyche tends to struggle in. My issue with Moyes is the timing. I still think his sacking from West Ham is relatively fresh and I'm not sure we will get the best version of Moyes right now, he's getting a bit older too, is the appetite really there now for a relegation scrap? Maybe but not guaranteed.

Potter is the other option, but the more I think about him, how good exactly is he? When he left Brighton they seemed to improve so was he actually holding them back? He was poor at Chelsea too and did he really do much at Swansea? Is he the right character for a tough job like ours? I'm not sure, it's a big risk really. If he was to come in and lose a few would it all get too much for him?

I think keeping Dyche would be the safest option but he needs to be backed strongly in this window in the exact areas that we need. If you remember right we actually look a lot more attractive to watch when irigboenum was playing but that players lack of defensive awareness put paid to that idea. It's not as though Dyche isn't capable of better football, he's just fearful of how with what's available it's a less efficient practice to use.

He does clearly have his faults Dyche, the stats are damning but crucially he is still in 16th in the league with a game in hand. He probably is the safest bet but the squad drastically needs improvement, I'm talking 3 or 4 ready to go players in the door. The right wing is not good enough, neither option is helping the team at all. The strikers need service. A more productive left back could be beneficial.

I think this is where I am at the moment.

I originally thought he has to go, but I actually think if given better resources he's the safest bet. But at the same time the owners need to give him the carrot of saying if you succeed and the signs are promising then you could earn a new contract. Because for a manager to stay who knows he will be sacked is also a massive negative as subconsciously you won't get the best out of them.
Dyche has more chance of winning miss world than being the Everton manager next season
 
It’s very clear there is a brief this week, Boyland, athletic, SSN and the Echo all had whispers to but a bit of pressure on Dyche - all in the same week, practically on the same day wasn’t it? Monday.

The axe is being sharpened but it’s not ready to chop just yet IMO.
I agree. Defo a change of gear.

Whether that's the shot across the bow for Dyche or the fans and media being steadied for a definite replacement or not is the only doubt.

I tend to think Dyche will get the Villa game and if we do well there he'll be ok and get to take some very winnable games on following that.

His fortune rests on getting McNeil and Garner back on the pitch. It should also rest on who these owners get through the door in terms of players, but that looks remote right now.
 

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