2022/23 Sean Dyche

[DayL08]

I think theres three things that would lead me to (almost) fully be on the Dyche train:

1: Using the best players in their correct positions.

2: Focusing on young players and building a young squad.

3: Being proactive with substitutions.


Hes definitely shown some positives but there are so many negatives that have really caused us more trouble than we should have been in.

Think points 2 and 3 are most concerning about Dyche. We’re going to have to give youngsters a go given our financial position. Is he going to be willing to play Branthwaite rather than Keane.

Also if you want to try a young progressive manager it has to be from the Summer in case it doesn’t work. If you keep Dyche and sack him in January- where do you go after that

Personally I thank him for his contribution and get a new manager. He had enough time to get us clear. Our team isn’t great but is it any worse than Forest, Bournemouth, etc.

 

[Moomin]

Thanks and goodbye
Second rate manager
Sub standard football
He’s useless

Just to let everyone know, here are some of your posts from January this year.

If we sack Lampard a new face and his team come we maybe get a bounce to safety. But then he sets about attempting to impose his systems and the disruption and poor results follow again.
It’s all subjective, none of us can confidently predict the future, for me it’s time to stick.
( Unless the board are willing to be bold and appoint Gallardo of course ,but they would never have the courage to do that,
so I’ll stick with Frank)

Whatever your thoughts on Lampard as a manager, he has effectively had one window and half a season to fix a team who were the worst performing team in the league when he arrived.
Any manager will need more forbearance than that.

Or sticking by a manager and giving some room to develop a team rather than panicking and sacking them before they’ve had 1 season let alone 2 isn’t always correct.
Sometimes a sign of good leadership is ignoring the crowd and trusting your own appointments.
Risking failure can reap rewards.
I don’t think sacking Silva was right and I don’t think sacking Lampard would be the correct decision now.
Now is the time I would take that risk.

 

[PhilM]

Leaving that aside, the last thing we need right now is manager turnover. Dyche will give us stability, he’ll help balance the squad, get them competitive and consolidate mid table. That’s exactly what we need right now.

I expect a fair bit of turnover in players but I want a boring season next year.

A boring, mediocre season to take us into BMD.

We have to be pragmatic: I would snap your hand off if someone offered a season where we're mid-table and safe early on. We need to be comfortable.

While Dyche is far from ideal, I do feel he has the capability to get us there with this squad alongside some additions. This summer is going to be pivotal.

If Dyche isn't backed, like anyone else who was in charge, we're going to stay on the rollercoaster because this has been due to having a paper-thin squad.

As the bare minimum, we need a striker. Mina will need replacing and we will need cover at full back positions because we can't keep shoehorning people in places.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Liked his post match interview, was very good

 

[Groucho]

Honesty is what we needed all along. Wasn’t my first choice as manager but I’m more than happy with him now.

Frank Lampard was a nice guy but that alone isn’t good enough. I’m glad a manager has had the balls to say this;

 

[toffee82]

Don’t see why potter wouldnt come or even Rodgers

That's two.

Rodgers did worse with a better balanced squad.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Can't see how we can get rid at this point to be honest.

We're a ticking time bomb and, against the odds, he managed to reset the timer.

 

[The binman chronicles]

His style of football he has employed throughout his career is not one I respect, admire or enjoy.
Again, if Doucoure doesn’t score a goal out of nothing yesterday , we would have been relegated.

I take it you've been unhappy with our last three managers though? Kind of shows you can jump from the frying pan into the fire. Also what message does it send out to other managers when we looked dead and buried, can't keep DCL on the pitch, but survive and still sack?

Like Spurs are finding if you chop and change there becomes a dwindling number of managers to choose from and you don't tend to get better that way. Not to mention spending another load of millions just to pay a manager off, that's another what 6 million(?) that could be spent strengthening the squad.

We need one bloke to concentrate getting rid of the perennial poor performers and recruiting players in areas of weakness, if we don't do that the next man spends 6 months to a year evaluating people we know can't hack it before they get fired and so it continues. Dyche has made us tougher to beat, improved the away form and deserves a shot at building his team to be judged on. No guarantees it works and he is successful but for all the reasons above it would make sense (unless we are getting Simeone and we've got two hundred million to spend over the next few seasons) to let Dyche try.

 

[Groucho]

Can't see how we can get rid at this point to be honest.

We're a ticking time bomb and, against the odds, he managed to reset the timer.

He is absolutely not one of the people we need to get rid of.

We need his pragmatism for a few more seasons.

 

[Zatara]

Well done on staying up , look forward to the game next year. For any of those dyche doubters still in your fold , just listen to what Vincent Kompany said about what he inherited at burnley when he took over. He had nothing but praise for the Dna that dyche had instilled in the club.. team spirit , work ethic fitness.. no prima donna’s…. Honesty and integrity. Everton need an identity that can be built on and enhanced.. he’s the man to get the basics right even if at first some fans dont see it… that legacy can be pretty powerful… just ask any burnley fan

The bolded part is all well and good for a team that has just been relegated. He certainly created a Burnley "identity" as well.

I knew you guys would survive, Sean got your game plans mostly correct apart form a couple of head scratchers a few games ago.

Give the man your backing and with some resources from the board you won’t be in this position next year. Comfortable mid-table knocking on top 10 under Dyche.

You heard it hear first.

Also I’m expecting Charlie Taylor to join you on a free.

Id take him as a backup left back for 2 seasons until ISS is ready.

How do you feel about Diego Simeone?

He's one of the worlds best managers. He knows how to setup defensively front to back, makes proactive subs and plays youth along with using players in correct roles.

Nothing whatsoever similar to Dyche.

Lol @ some of the negative dyche posts. We survived relegation with the worse most poorly balanced squad in the whole league thanks to Dyche now you want to go and get a glamorous name in to play barcelona type football next season haha dreamers.

No one has said this. What people are concerned about is sticking with Dyche for a rebuild and ending up with an old squad only able to play negative football.

People wanting him gone need to give their heads a wobble.

We've got no money for a Simeone, let alone what they would want to spend. Also, do you really trust the board to bring someone more suitable in?

Dyche has galvanized this ragged bunch and knows the limitations and where to prioritise. He's managed to grind out 1-0 wins in nearly a quarter of his games which is what is needed sometimes.

Saying that, if we haven't signed a striker by the start of the season or he plays Keane anywhere or Godfrey at full back he can get out!

How about a manager who plays the best players? Someone who doesnt use CBs at full back ahead of full backs?

Someone who makes proactive subs when its obvious to anyone something needs to change. He should stop talking about experience when its experience of failure.

His football is dire
I despise teams who habitually surrender possession, relying on breakaway goals
We need to set our pathway forward to become better than we are and retaining Dyche represents parking in another cul-de-sac of nothingness.
Doesn’t need to be a big name manager , someone on their way up, Schumacher for instance.

seeing as hes been mentioned, Simeone kicked off with Atletico playing counter attacking football. Id love to see us with a solid defence absorbing attacks and then BANG were rapidly attacking when the opposition are at their weakest.

Think points 2 and 3 are most concerning about Dyche. We’re going to have to give youngsters a go given our financial position. Is he going to be willing to play Branthwaite rather than Keane.

Also if you want to try a young progressive manager it has to be from the Summer in case it doesn’t work. If you keep Dyche and sack him in January- where do you go after that

Personally I thank him for his contribution and get a new manager. He had enough time to get us clear. Our team isn’t great but is it any worse than Forest, Bournemouth, etc.

Simply use the best players in their correct positions and have DCL and Iwobi goalscoring replacements fit over a season and were mid table.

I think its more about which direction to take when squad building.

 

[toffee82]

Think points 2 and 3 are most concerning about Dyche. We’re going to have to give youngsters a go given our financial position. Is he going to be willing to play Branthwaite rather than Keane.

Also if you want to try a young progressive manager it has to be from the Summer in case it doesn’t work. If you keep Dyche and sack him in January- where do you go after that

Personally I thank him for his contribution and get a new manager. He had enough time to get us clear. Our team isn’t great but is it any worse than Forest, Bournemouth, etc.

The thing with giving youngsters a chance is that when you are in the relegation zone with a horribly balanced squad then it's not the best time to throw them in.

Rooney is probably the only one I can think of who was ready to play every game at 16/17.

Fingers crossed for the likes of Cannon.

 

[jinkyali]

Dyche has earned a crack the opportunity to lead us next season.

He alluded to it in his post match but some of the stuff going on behind the scenes.

Injuries galore.
No squad depth.
No centre forward
Loser mentality
Board who aren't welcome
Not one player purchase
Players approaching the end of their contract

His interview was spot on.

He was brave enough to take on the job so he deserves our support.

 

[Saint Domingo]

If you extrapolate results out and take into account his record at home v the bottom half then over the course of a season even with this squad of players with DCL injured for most of it we’d be over 40 points and PL safety.

What could he achieve with better attacking options and some of his own players?

Yet some people want him out in favour of Graham Potter who couldn’t get a tune out of a billion pound squad at Chelsea or Brendan Rodgers who relegated a Leicester squad miles better than ours. Pure delusion.

 

[Ozwell]

Reading some of the comments, have missed something?

Were we on the cusp of winning the league before Dyche or even last year?

Some of our fans are embarrassing. Complaining about a manager who has a terrible squad, non of his signings btw.

Wake up and smell the coffee, we have an awful side, so making subs won’t generally make us better.

Have we looked better under Dych…..yes. Have the players looked better……yes. Does he a track record at getting the best out of players…..yes. Perhaps we should give the guy a chance. One thing we don’t need is a change in management….again!!!

Remember nothing in football is guaranteed, so the tinpot ideas some fans have is not a guarantee of success!!!

 

[Walken]

Deserves credit for finding a way to win without DCL, he will be judged longer term obviously but I can confidently say he is better than lampard. Which oddly seems to be the spark for quite a few to give him stick