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2022/23 Sean Dyche

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Please name me the real manager that will make Seamus Coleman and Doucoure able to kick a ball near their own team mates.
I love how it always ends up here. It's not a gotcha. There are plenty. Go look them up on your own. I don't have any desire to go here again.
 
I love how it always ends up here. It's not a gotcha. There are plenty. Go look them up on your own. I don't have any desire to go here again.

I don’t believe there is a manager out there capable of making players as bad as ours good at football. There really is no helping you if you haven’t spotted this by now. Our players are unbelievably bad.
 
I don’t believe there is a manager out there capable of making players as bad as ours good at football. There really is no helping you if you haven’t spotted this by now. Our players are unbelievably bad.
I don't believe they're as bad as they've played and think that under proper management they can be competent. We'll never get to find out.
 

I believe they are as bad as they’ve played. I’ve watched them for long enough under many different styles of manager.
None of the styles have been "manager who has a sound system that he commits to and develops his players to fill the needed roles while making appropriate tweaks so that players are put in positions to succeed."

Carlo was too adaptable so we never developed continuity, Benitez system was broken, Lampard is a complete nothing of a manager aside from the rah rah stuff and now Dyche is probably going to be too committed to flawed ideas.

Basically we've tried nothing and nothing has worked.
 
I don't believe they're as bad as they've played and think that under proper management they can be competent. We'll never get to find out.
If you don't think Dyche is a 'proper manager' then there's no hope for you, though.

Of course, our entire issues stem from Iwobi not playing LCM though, don't they?

Is Dyche amazing? No. Is he probably best suited to try and eek something out of this squad? Probably. Has he already been let down by the absolute shambles of a DoF and board when it comes to recruitment? Yes, already.

He's got one job and it's to keep us up. If he doesn't do it then we'll have to look and see in the summer if he's the right manager to get us straight back up.

But the simple thing is that the vast majority of our players are only able to play in one set way, and that's to be very direct and intense as they were against Arsenal. There's nothing wrong with that, but it can also easily be countered if we don't have the right players on the pitch, and it basically entirely revolves around Dom, who has been injured now for the best part of 18 months.

Because sadly, there's no manager on earth that makes Maupay into an athletic, quick, 6ft forward.
 
None of the styles have been "manager who has a sound system that he commits to and develops his players to fill the needed roles while making appropriate tweaks so that players are put in positions to succeed."

Carlo was too adaptable so we never developed continuity, Benitez system was broken, Lampard is a complete nothing of a manager aside from the rah rah stuff and now Dyche is probably going to be too committed to flawed ideas.

Basically we've tried nothing and nothing has worked.
What has given you this idea? It's been two games. What ideas are flawed?

You really always seem to think that this squad is capable of playing lovely footy (you and Lampard clearly had this in common) but there's so much evidence that they aren't.
 
None of the styles have been "manager who has a sound system that he commits to and develops his players to fill the needed roles while making appropriate tweaks so that players are put in positions to succeed."

Carlo was too adaptable so we never developed continuity, Benitez system was broken, Lampard is a complete nothing of a manager aside from the rah rah stuff and now Dyche is probably going to be too committed to flawed ideas.

Basically we've tried nothing and nothing has worked.
What are his 'flawed ideas' in your mind?
 

Also if anyone has actually grown up playing footy, and done it all their life, they'd know that footy is not 'an incredibly complex sport'.

No sport is incredibly complex. It's why so many people around the world play it.

The basics always stay the same and it's the basics that are at first required. Ultimately you need quality on top and that's where this Everton squad falls down. Because the quality isn't there.

Calvert-Lewin (crocked), Maupay, Simms, Gray, McNeil, Iwobi.

That's our attack. That's one of the worst attacks in the league. Which is why we've scored 16 goals in 22 games and are 18th.
 
I don't believe they're as bad as they've played and think that under proper management they can be competent. We'll never get to find out.
Unfortunately you appear to be suffering from the same misconception that infects the club….that regardless of who they buy, the right manager fixes their performance. Yes some managers get more out of players than others, but we generally have a Frankenstein of a squad of not very good, aging players sprinkled with the odd one or two who may go in to be decent players. I think Dyche will get as much out of them as any manager really
 
None of the styles have been "manager who has a sound system that he commits to and develops his players to fill the needed roles while making appropriate tweaks so that players are put in positions to succeed."

Carlo was too adaptable so we never developed continuity, Benitez system was broken, Lampard is a complete nothing of a manager aside from the rah rah stuff and now Dyche is probably going to be too committed to flawed ideas.

Basically we've tried nothing and nothing has worked.

Ancelotti took one look at them and gave up trying to play any kind of football and had us playing for set pieces. One of the greatest managers of all time recognised that they were incapable of playing football, so forgive me but I tend to believe him over you who just seems to think “go and play good football lads” will work.

Some of the actual suggestions you make aren’t viable either. You seem to think that just putting Dwight McNeil on the right is going to make him a better player, as if he can become a Robben-esque cut inside winger. But he can’t, because he doesn’t have the skill set to do that. You have to be able to drop a shoulder, change direction quickly, be actually capable of going on the outside to the byline occasionally so that the full back can’t easily read you. All McNeil ends up doing is taking the ball on the right, and slowly meandering into 3 players in the centre before giving it away or going backwards. I’m genuinely not trying to be patronising here and trying to help you understand the game of football a bit better. You seem to have a very, very base level of understanding of the game.
 
Also if anyone has actually grown up playing footy, and done it all their life, they'd know that footy is not 'an incredibly complex sport'.

No sport is incredibly complex. It's why so many people around the world play it.

The basics always stay the same and it's the basics that are at first required. Ultimately you need quality on top and that's where this Everton squad falls down. Because the quality isn't there.

Calvert-Lewin (crocked), Maupay, Simms, Gray, McNeil, Iwobi.

That's our attack. That's one of the worst attacks in the league. Which is why we've scored 16 goals in 22 games and are 18th.

Not one of the worst attacks, THE worst attacks.
 

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