2022/23 Sean Dyche

[efcste97]

Start Gray please

 

[adi dassler]

For what division we play in next year the results matter.

For who our manager is the results don't matter.

So pretty important then

 

[TheBigIguana]

But what has given you that impression? It can’t be anything you’ve observed from seeing them play football.

No it genuinely is. I'm not going to go player by player but with the exception of Coleman who is really terrible and maybe Coady I think you have something to work with from basically every other player.

 

[TheBigIguana]

So pretty important then

I was talking about Dyche though specifically and they aren't important for our evaluation of his performance.

 

[DanB90]

At the u23s game tonight. Does he really like stadium food or is he very meticulous about his job

Probably seeing if any of them could “do a job”.

Seeing as we have the worst attack in the league and failed to bring any in the recent window, I’m guessing he’s exploring the only avenue we have left.

 

[MikeH72]

No it genuinely is. I'm not going to go player by player but with the exception of Coleman who is really terrible and maybe Coady I think you have something to work with from basically every other player.

That is an interesting observation you’ve made there Ig. I don’t agree, I think they’re mostly all very bad.

 

[adi dassler]

I was talking about Dyche though specifically and they aren't important for our evaluation of his performance.

They are. If the results are good enough he’ll keep us in the division, which let’s be honest will be a minor miracle

 

[TheBigIguana]

That is an interesting observation you’ve made there Ig. I don’t agree, I think they’re mostly all very bad.

I'm not saying we could make Europe, that's impossible, and top half might be too, but I think we've got enough where the last two years could have been comfortably 13th or something.

 

[TheBigIguana]

They are. If the results are good enough he’ll keep us in the division, which let’s be honest will be a minor miracle

If the performances stink he should still get sacked

 

[MikeH72]

I'm not saying we could make Europe, that's impossible, and top half might be too, but I think we've got enough where the last two years could have been comfortably 13th or something.

Personally I think we’ve got the worst attacking options in the entire league, and by a distance now after January. The midfield aside from Onana is an absolute train wreck too and none of them can pass a football. The back 4 is non-paced and they’re all awful on the ball. No seriously, we are the worst team in the league.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Personally I think we’ve got the worst attacking options in the entire league, and by a distance now after January. The midfield aside from Onana is an absolute train wreck too and none of them can pass a football. The back 4 is non-paced and they’re all awful on the ball. No seriously, we are the worst team in the league.

As I said I'm just not that far down on them. Part of the reason none of our players can pass is that no one knows where anyone is going to end up and the PL doesn't offer you time to figure that out without getting the ball nicked.

It's why, going way back here, I was so frustrated with Frank changing between a back 3 and back 4 in preseason. You've got to build continuity from day 1 and we never did. Even the bad passing players will look better when they are sure of themselves.

 

[Blue peter]

I'm not saying we could make Europe, that's impossible, and top half might be too, but I think we've got enough where the last two years could have been comfortably 13th or something.

I think you’re right on that but up to the final one or two forward positions - that’s what fundamentally let’s us down

 

[MikeH72]

I think you’re right on that but up to the final one or two forward positions - that’s what fundamentally let’s us down

The full backs are hopeless and offer nothing defensively or going forward. The wide players offer no creativity. The centre backs are slow and poor on the ball. The midfield is made up of players that can’t pass forwards. It’s definitely more than the forwards that are the issue.

 

[TheBigIguana]

The full backs are hopeless and offer nothing defensively or going forward. The wide players offer no creativity. The centre backs are slow and poor on the ball. The midfield is made up of players that can’t pass forwards. It’s definitely more than the forwards that are the issue.

But even within this you've got issues like putting the one player who can pass forward even a little bit in a spot where his ability to is limited, insisting on playing Mykolenko when Vinagre can at least cross a little, and not putting together a system that allows your questionable attackers to at least get the ball up the field and in the final third with some options.

No they aren't good but there is more here.

 

[MikeH72]

But even within this you've got issues like putting the one player who can pass forward even a little bit in a spot where his ability to is limited, insisting on playing Mykolenko when Vinagre can at least cross a little, and not putting together a system that allows your questionable attackers to at least get the ball up the field and in the final third with some options.

No they aren't good but there is more here.

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