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2022/23 Sean Dyche

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It's really not. I don't believe that how Dyche aims to win football games is ever the correct approach. You all want to make excuses about quality of the team and all that and it's fine, I don't believe in those excuses.

Go ahead and tell me I don't know anything now.
I'm not making excuses for Dyche or whatever. He's been here two games. I'm not suggesting he's a brilliant manager.

My point is, there's no way this team wins tons of games, because it's a bad team.

It was a squad that scraped to safety last season and on top of that sold its best player and replaced it with genuine tosh. That's what McNeil and Maupay are. They might throw in the odd good game every 5-6 matches but otherwise they're crap. Not because they can't match technically, but they are so physically poor.

We have players like Gray and previously Gordon who are wildly inconsistent. We have midfielders in Gueye who are (past it, but can on their day perform in a specific role), Doucoure (inconsistent/not suited to a possession style) and Onana (very young so going to be up and down). Iwobi is consistent in the sense you know what you'll get from him but he's incredibly erratic with his decision making and is nowhere near as good as people make him out to be.

Our best attacker can't stay fit and neither can our best defender. All of our CB options, bar one, lack any pace. Our FBs are absolutely atrocious.

Our GK can be brilliant but does make erratic decisions too.

They aren't good players.
 
and @TheBigIguana Dyche is simply a symptom of where we are.

This squad is crap, it's also been managed by crap. Dyche is the best manager we've had since Ancelotti, but that's not a high bar.

His job is to, whatever way possible, win 6-7 games from the final 16 matches.

He isn't helped by the fact the useless club have left him with Maupay, who's slow, unathletic and has scored ONE league goal in 28 appearances, as his only feasible alternative option up front to Calvert-Lewin, who is perma-crocked.
 
Wild and crazy suggestion here....

Pickford
Coleman - Holgate - Godfrey - Mykolenko
McNeil - Onana - Gana - Davies
Iwobi
Simms

Nah Dyche would never do it....
 

I'm not making excuses for Dyche or whatever. He's been here two games. I'm not suggesting he's a brilliant manager.

My point is, there's no way this team wins tons of games, because it's a bad team.

It was a squad that scraped to safety last season and on top of that sold its best player and replaced it with genuine tosh. That's what McNeil and Maupay are. They might throw in the odd good game every 5-6 matches but otherwise they're crap. Not because they can't match technically, but they are so physically poor.

We have players like Gray and previously Gordon who are wildly inconsistent. We have midfielders in Gueye who are (past it, but can on their day perform in a specific role), Doucoure (inconsistent/not suited to a possession style) and Onana (very young so going to be up and down). Iwobi is consistent in the sense you know what you'll get from him but he's incredibly erratic with his decision making and is nowhere near as good as people make him out to be.

Our best attacker can't stay fit and neither can our best defender. All of our CB options, bar one, lack any pace. Our FBs are absolutely atrocious.

Our GK can be brilliant but does make erratic decisions too.

They aren't good players.
Under proper management the outlook would not be this gloomy. I'm really confident in that. Unfortunately we'll never get to see that tested out.

I just look at Fulham or Brentford, yeah they've got a healthy striker but it isn't like we're scoring with DCL playing, and don't see a huge talent gap. Yoane Wissa is a player we'd call terrible if he played for us. Bobby Decordova-Reid is a player we'd call terrible if he was here as well. We've somehow done a 180 from always blaming the managers to always blaming the players and it remains both. The thing is you can find a manager to do the job right a lot quicker. It's one guy and you can hire him whenever you want.
 

Wild and crazy suggestion here....

Pickford
Coleman - Holgate - Godfrey - Mykolenko
McNeil - Onana - Gana - Davies
Iwobi
Simms

Nah Dyche would never do it....
Falls apart straight away with the Holgate and Godfrey combination.

Ancelotti tried it against Fulham (in the season where Fulham were one of the worst teams to ever compete in the premier league) and we got absolutely decimated.
 
Under proper management the outlook would not be this gloomy. I'm really confident in that. Unfortunately we'll never get to see that tested out.

I just look at Fulham or Brentford, yeah they've got a healthy striker but it isn't like we're scoring with Dominic Calvert-Lewin playing, and don't see a huge talent gap. Yoane Wissa is a player we'd call terrible if he played for us. Bobby Decordova-Reid is a player we'd call terrible if he was here as well. We've somehow done a 180 from always blaming the managers to always blaming the players and it remains both. The thing is you can find a manager to do the job right a lot quicker. It's one guy and you can hire him whenever you want.
This shows such a lack of understanding of the game.

How can you watch the Arsenal performance and see what Dom offered to the team, and how it improved the rest of the side to be able to play direct (because as I've said, these players need basic tactics right now) to the derby, when we didn't have that option and Liverpool just made us try and play through the thirds and we were picked off.

Look at the last four games we've got points out of - Dom has started each one. It's no coincidence, because even under Lampard when it did get close to being right it was when we went a bit more direct (the win over Palace we played with intensity and speed, it's direct, proper footy).

Yes, those other teams are well-coached, and they've had better managers. They've also recruited well, with an emphasis on speed and athleticism and energy, not just vague 'young and hungry' and PL experience. The only player that we bought in the summer with actual money that is the template of what we desperately needed was Onana.

Brentford have speed up front. Fulham have a defined template, an excellent no.6 and in Vinicius they have a striker who means that if Mitrovic is injured they do not have to entirely change the way we play.

Dyche has been here two weeks. He's been failed in the window but just in regards to the last two games he's taken 3/6 points. I'm unsure what you're judging on right now. If he keeps us up, it'll be because he's coached this side well enough to grind out points.
 
Falls apart straight away with the Holgate and Godfrey combination.

Ancelotti tried it against Fulham (in the season where Fulham were one of the worst teams to compete in the premier league) and we got absolutely decimated.
also v Newcastle that away game.

And in that Fulham game we had James Rodriguez. Not, you know, Dwight McNeil.
 

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