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2022/23 Sean Dyche

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But this is football. Everton have to become sustainable and a big part of that is recognising how to be economically prudent while also succeeding.

Do you think Brighton fans care that their World Cup-winning midfielder probably sees himself playing at a bigger club someday?

All that's to say is what my point was is that I don't think any manager since Koeman (BFS just is how he is) saw us as necessarily a stepping stone. They were all committed in their own way. They just proved not to be very good, Ancelotti aside (and his failings came from the players at his disposal being a lot poorer than he's been used to).

Benitez was motivated but for all the wrong reasons, and he was just a stupid pick. Silva wasn't 'emotionless' because he didn't care, that's just how he is. He's the same now at Fulham, btw. He hasn't changed in that regard.

We've got a player in Onana who probably could go on to big things in the game but the reason we signed him is because we sold ourselves as that pathway and that's fine. When it comes to managers it should be about if they fit what we are trying to build. If they ultimately move on - like Potter did to Chelsea for example - then it means they'd done a good job and we'd have to have the next person ready to go to hopefully build and improve on what they did.

But right now we are miles from that as we simply need a good manager to bring about some stability and keep us steady heading into the new stadium.

Look at this squad right now btw and honestly tell me which players, bar Onana, see us as a stepping stone...

That isn't the issue, it's that they're just not that good.

We as fans make far too many excuses for players, and managers really, but mainly players. We try to find other angles into it, that they aren't fully committed, that they don't give 100% every game etc.

The sad truth that we don't want to accept is that while yes, some players may not give 100 per cent every single minute - and that should change and will change under Dyche - that most of them just aren't good enough. And that's why we are where we are.

I’m not arguing that the players aren’t good enough, believe me!

It’s finding that balance, it’s extremely difficult, you want players good enough to play for better clubs but who want to stay and play for Everton.

Otherwise we just become a feeder team for the top clubs which is what Brighton are. They might be well run, and their player trading profit might be great, but they’ll never dine at the top table, ever, is that what people want for Everton?

You’re right though, not many of the players we have now are even good enough to use us as a stepping stone. It’s a very poor squad.

A good starting point though is having a manager who is completely all in and also good, let’s hope Dyche is that man then we can build with him,
 

I genuinely think a lot of us were just so sick of the players and the manager merry go round that we supported Lampard probably longer than we should. I know personally I held on too long hoping it would change but at the end it was every bit as horrendous as Benítez and became untenable.

I don't think there's anything wrong thinking someone is a good bloke but it probably blinkered me a bit, just so desperate for some stability.
I get that to an extent, but I think it almost ended up being a bit cult-like by the end. Not on here but just in general.

I think he's probably one of the worst managers that the league has ever seen, but this seemed to get ignored in some circles because he wasn't Benitez. Despite having a worst record than him by the end and being backed to a degree in the summer.

The most frustrating thing is that if he'd have been binned after Bournemouth we'd be comfortably 13th by now.
 
….like his post-match when he said something along the lines of ‘wide players not loading the back-post’.

Often it’s about what you don’t see. Twice crosses from McNeil went across the box (I actually think Simms would’ve got on the end of one) but there was no sign of Iwobi on the back-post. its really hard work for wingers making that run, especially when you might get reward once in every 50 runs, but it’s little things that make a difference.
 
….like his post-match when he said something along the lines of ‘wide players not loading the back-post’.

Often it’s about what you don’t see. Twice crosses from McNeil went across the box (I actually think Simms would’ve got on the end of one) but there was no sign of Iwobi on the back-post. its really hard work for wingers making that run, especially when you might get reward once in every 50 runs, but it’s little things that make a difference.
I haven't looked up any stats, but it does seem that crosses are coming in, now, and before the area is loaded with defenders. I can see how a wide player on the opposite wing might not have had the motivation to sprint to the far post, when there was a 99.9% chance that the winger would check, and pass backward, or hit the first of several defenders. At least now that lung bursting sprint would have a chance of a product.
 

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