2022/23 Sean Dyche

[GrandOldTeam]

He hasn't done anything that the likes of Pulis, Allardyce, Pardew and Hodgson haven't, and the only reason he's here is because the club was in such a desperate state.

His limitations and ceiling are obvious. We're not obliged to pretend that he's something he isn't just because he's in the Everton job.

Are they?

They're not to me - based on him only ever managing Burnley. That dictates you shouldn't be so conclusive and assertive - Dyche excelled at Burnley, let's hope he can do the same here.

He wouldn't have got the job here if we hadn't hit such a low - he was the first to acknowledge that, but that's football.

He's English and only managed at the lower end of the table and so you've put him in with Pulis (65), Allardyce (68), Pardew (61) and Hodgson (75),

Dyche is 51. The same age as Pochettino.

Let's keep an open mind - he's got as big as an endorsement as you can get from Burnley. Lets judge him on what he does at Everton.

 

[Mashtray]

Are they?

They're not to me - based on him only ever managing Burnley. That dictates you shouldn't be so conclusive and assertive - Dyche excelled at Burnley, let's hope he can do the same here.

He wouldn't have got the job here if we hadn't hit such a low - he was the first to acknowledge that, but that's football.

He's English and only managed at the lower end of the table and so you've put him in with Pulis (65), Allardyce (68), Pardew (61) and Hodgson (75),

Dyche is 51. The same age as Pochettino.

Let's keep an open mind - he's got as big as an endorsement as you can get from Burnley. Lets judge him on what he does at Everton.

Weirdly our attacking stats since he took over has been really great.

Somewhat unexpected

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Weirdly our attacking stats since he took over has been really great.

Somewhat unexpected

Look loads better going forward but the headline is still struggling to score.

Think it's 8 goals in 10 games. Admittedly difficult games in those 10 - only scored 2 in the first 5 didn't we.

 

[twoblue]

Well, prior Everton he managed Watford;

Mackay left to join Cardiff City in June 2011, and Dyche was promoted to manager.[10] Watford finished the 2011–12 season in 11th place in the Football League Championship, the club's best finish for four years, but a change in club ownership led to his dismissal at the end of the season.[11]

... and Burnley.

He overachieved at Burnley, he's like a god there.

So let's see how he does at Everton?

He's never really had a chance to achieve anything other than the box he's in has he?

I think if we stay up and give him any sort of attack, he'd have us at least mid table next season.

sensible take.
The amount of people slate Dyche is unreal. It shows a complete lack of understanding.
The quality of players is poor, we are unbalanced, have no premier level striker available, behind the scenes we are a circus and the moral in squad will have been poor.
Despite the fixtures, against largely top half and inform sides we have started to compete, get some odd results and our form has largely been mid table form since he arrived.
We lose away to united and all of sudden people turning on him, either give you head a wobble or stop being a WUM and get back to rawk

 

[Mitch Ward's Minder]

He hasn't done anything that the likes of Pulis, Allardyce, Pardew and Hodgson haven't, and the only reason he's here is because the club was in such a desperate state.

His limitations and ceiling are obvious. We're not obliged to pretend that he's something he isn't just because he's in the Everton job.

Same could be said about Eddie Howe and his time at Bournemouth. Given the chance at a larger club he has grown into it, made the right calls and seems to be proving people wrong.
If you're only remit from the board is do what you can to stay in the league, then you have to be play a certain way, I think Dyche learned that after getting relegated back in 2015. I think he's shown in his shirt time here what he is capable of getting out of the players and standards being set.

 

[The binman chronicles]

He's been shouting at them so much in training he's turned a shade of purple.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Are they?

They're not to me - based on him only ever managing Burnley. That dictates you shouldn't be so conclusive and assertive - Dyche excelled at Burnley, let's hope he can do the same here.

He wouldn't have got the job here if we hadn't hit such a low - he was the first to acknowledge that, but that's football.

He's English and only managed at the lower end of the table and so you've put him in with Pulis (65), Allardyce (68), Pardew (61) and Hodgson (75),

Dyche is 51. The same age as Pochettino.

Let's keep an open mind - he's got as big as an endorsement as you can get from Burnley. Lets judge him on what he does at Everton.

You're also allowed to watch his teams play and conclude he's not Pochettino though. It isn't like Saints are so much better set up to succeed than Burnley.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Same could be said about Eddie Howe and his time at Bournemouth. Given the chance at a larger club he has grown into it, made the right calls and seems to be proving people wrong.
If you're only remit from the board is do what you can to stay in the league, then you have to be play a certain way, I think Dyche learned that after getting relegated back in 2015. I think he's shown in his shirt time here what he is capable of getting out of the players and standards being set.

Howe has shown to be way more adaptable in his career than Dyche

 

[Groucho]

He should re sign J Rod

 

[Nymzee]

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Howe has shown to be way more adaptable in his career than Dyche

Well, he's had the chance to show that given the extra job.

You'd have been slating Howe when he was linked to Everton when he was at Bournemouth,.

 

[Moomin]

Howe failed at Burnely while Dyche succeeded at Burnley.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Weirdly our attacking stats since he took over has been really great.

Somewhat unexpected

Even more weirdly for a "4-4-2 hoof merchant football dinosaur" we've been beaten quite often by the long diagonal ball and play direct but more on the ground in the buildup (to some success, as you say).

I know it's down to personnel in most cases like that but I just find it funny really.

 

[Carlito]

Are they?

They're not to me - based on him only ever managing Burnley. That dictates you shouldn't be so conclusive and assertive - Dyche excelled at Burnley, let's hope he can do the same here.

He wouldn't have got the job here if we hadn't hit such a low - he was the first to acknowledge that, but that's football.

He's English and only managed at the lower end of the table and so you've put him in with Pulis (65), Allardyce (68), Pardew (61) and Hodgson (75),

Dyche is 51. The same age as Pochettino.

Let's keep an open mind - he's got as big as an endorsement as you can get from Burnley. Lets judge him on what he does at Everton.

We get this sort of talk with every manager we appoint.

He's here to dig us out of a hole because that's what he's about.

I think it's great that you're enjoying him and his football, but I won't be surprised if you're adding your voice to those complaining about basic percentages football a few months into next season.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

We get this sort of talk with every manager we appoint.

What sort of talk?

You've decided what Sean Dyche is based on one job.

I'm suggesting you at least try and keep an open mind considering he's not had multiple jobs to prove anything.

He did better than expected at Burnley.

He's doing the same so far with Everton.

He's here to dig us out of a hole because that's what he's about.

Is he?

Who has ever appointed him to survive relegation before?

You keep comparing him to Sam Allardyce.

In my view it's a lazy, and incorrect comparison.

I think it's great that you're enjoying him and his football, but I won't be surprised if you're adding your voice to those complaining about basic percentages football a few months into next season.

One of the reasons I wanted Dyche was because he's been promoted twice at first time of asking for Burnley.

I want him to stay even if we go down.

He gets as good as a free pass next season if we stay up. The only way I'd call for his sacking is if we're looking favourites for relegation and I felt changing him would improve our chances of avoiding relegation.

Our teams dictates pragmatism over mindset.

Give me percentages football if it keeps us up for now - over time, he'll have his chance to develop that. I think he will.