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2022/23 Sean Dyche

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Think that's a result of the passiveness
 
I literally said in the post if he stinks the place up we should bin him, but you'll keep making stuff up about "obviously better managers" being available while mentioning 0 of those better managers, so I take anything you write with a whole salt mine's worth of salt.
You also said if we stay up he should stay. No.
 

Well, you talk about who Dyches is, put him in a neat little box and how his "limitations and ceiling are obvious"

My point is a simple one - you've seen Dyche at Burnley, and only Burnley.

I'd say the limitations and ceilings at Burnley is what is obvious.

He was pragmatic with them, and played to their DNA. I've got a lot of time for that. I think he'd still be their manager, and we'd have gone down if they kept Chris Wood.

Carlo Ancelotti got an Everton team to 10th.

Sometimes no matter the manager, the team and resource dictate the ceiling.

Only time will tell who Sean Dyche is. He'll need time to show it.
He's impressed me, on the whole, since he came here. I didn't particularly want him, but, I'm glad we got him. He may or may not keep us up, but either way, I'd give him at least next season to shore things up.
 
Absolutely yes.

Again, give one of your magical examples, as in the post you quoted - who are these amazing managers who will do a good job and realistically also want to join us?
This is my favorite exercise. Either I give you a name you think us worse than Dyche and I'm an idiot for suggesting that or I give you one that's better and then I'm an idiot for thinking he'd come here. And the other option is to not bother at which point I'm an idiot for thinking we should move on with no idea of what to do.

Whichever way I'm an idiot! Very fun.
 
This is my favorite exercise. Either I give you a name you think us worse than Dyche and I'm an idiot for suggesting that or I give you one that's better and then I'm an idiot for thinking he'd come here. And the other option is to not bother at which point I'm an idiot for thinking we should move on with no idea of what to do.

Whichever way I'm an idiot! Very fun.
Thats what happens when nobody will "trust me bro".
 
This is my favorite exercise. Either I give you a name you think us worse than Dyche and I'm an idiot for suggesting that or I give you one that's better and then I'm an idiot for thinking he'd come here. And the other option is to not bother at which point I'm an idiot for thinking we should move on with no idea of what to do.

Whichever way I'm an idiot! Very fun.
Good we agree on something! lol

But also no - give a realistic example and why he'd fit better. You clearly have an argument formed, give us it, give us evidence on why manager X, whoever he may be, will be a good/better fit than Dyche here, I'm more than happy to be openminded about that, but I do find it bizarre you want to fire someone doing well; I'd agree on next jan if we're crap again, sure, but that's me.

So I'm all ears, my dude.
 

Primarily he seems to exemplify what he asks of his players, hard work, honesty, dedication, camaraderie, heart over talent. That's not meant to demean him or his record. I think he might agree with that definition. He appears to be no fool, but also no Carlo. He does not seem to struggle with the weight of his massive ego unlike the BFS. He took Burnley to 7th once - I hope thats not his ceiling although I would bite your hand off for that next year! He will be judged on his ability to keep us up this year and should get at least one more season either way. He has had some good calls (subs vs Spurs...) and some not so good(last weeks tactics). We were going down when he arrived and right now its looking 50/50... progress. So I would agree with @davek on his 7/10 so far.
 
Primarily he seems to exemplify what he asks of his players, hard work, honesty, dedication, camaraderie, heart over talent. That's not meant to demean him or his record. I think he might agree with that definition. He appears to be no fool, but also no Carlo. He does not seem to struggle with the weight of his massive ego unlike the BFS. He took Burnley to 7th once - I hope thats not his ceiling although I would bite your hand off for that next year! He will be judged on his ability to keep us up this year and should get at least one more season either way. He has had some good calls (subs vs Spurs...) and some not so good(last weeks tactics). We were going down when he arrived and right now its looking 50/50... progress. So I would agree with @davek on his 7/10 so far.
He's also manfully carried the burden of managing the football version of the Mary Celeste. He's been left to it by an owner and board of directors - contending not only with zero striking options but needing to keep up the morale of an organisation under the threat of sanctions.
 
Good we agree on something! lol

But also no - give a realistic example and why he'd fit better. You clearly have an argument formed, give us it, give us evidence on why manager X, whoever he may be, will be a good/better fit than Dyche here, I'm more than happy to be openminded about that, but I do find it bizarre you want to fire someone doing well; I'd agree on next jan if we're crap again, sure, but that's me.

So I'm all ears, my dude.
It's not about current fit. Dyche does that fine. It's about what we want to do going forward and who might fit that. Unless of course you're fine with the current state of affairs.

Doing well is very relative here right now. 5 years ago Dyche would be on the chopping block. Between seasons we get to breathe and decide what the standard really is again.
 

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