4-4-2 with a high line against Newcastle and he's basically Agent Rafael Mk2.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
- Status
This has to be the stupidest thing I have ever read on here.
You must honestly beleive that we must be the only team in the top few flight of this country whereby the players are incapable of playing attacking football, even though any time the shackles are off and we are chasing a game we have seemed to manage it.
And that despite the fact that right now we are probably the most negative team in the league and are conceding goals by the barrel load since dyche came in, the answer is we need to play more negatively (despite about 8 years of Everton showing that any time we sit back we concede more goals).
Wow, and my post was stupid? How many goals have we scored this season? How many chances did this free flowing football create when the last fella was here? How many goals have we conceded when the “shackles are off”?.
The players are dreadful, they have proven this for over 2 years ffs. end of.
It's no wonder the board get away with murder when you read threads like this. It's genuinely maddening. The manager is categorically not the problem here. He's not the best manager in the world, there is a very good argument that he isn't going to achieve anything of note here in the long run, he does and will continue to make mistakes, but literally none of this is on him. I'm no lover of the bloke, I didn't want him here and won't shed a tear if he leaves in the summer, but I honestly find it staggering that anyone can have watched us over the last 2 1/2 years and still come to the conclusion that Dyche should be getting more out of them than he is.
We never play with the shackles off. We are the most defensive and passive team in the league. We don't commit men forward, we don't press, we don't close spaces, we don't engage teams until they reach the final third. Even if you are defending deeper you can do so with intensity and aggression. We haven't seen that. The performance against Fulham where we sat off and refused to even get tight, was a total embarrassment. In the 10 minutes we played with intent and tempo, we scored one and should have scored 2 more (lack of quality in front of goal unfortunately).
Yes the players are not good, I've been saying it for years. But the least we could do is show some intent and intensity. Getting more numbers forward, winning our individual battles, and working at least as hard as the opposition, is the absolute minimum that should be expected. Draws will not save us at this stage of the season.
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
How much of it is tactical and how much is it players playing within themselves? I refuse to believe that he’s deliberately sending them out to be defensive
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £50m
When you look through the team/squad there is hardly a player there that we had any real competion for their signature. Half the side have been relegated before. Absolutely nobody would have paid 25m for Godfrey 30m for iwobi etc. I have never in my life seen a professional club at this level start a new season with zero options to select a forward to put on the pitch.
Like yourself im not in any fan dyche club. He's very bread and butter in everything his teams do. But there's nothing of any quality to work with. And thats even before you are hindered with injuries and suspensions.
If there is a club more poorly run in Europe then point them out. I could do with a laugh.
With Doucoure in the side we absolutely were doing that. Spurs at home (about 3 weeks ago) was probably the best consistent pressing i've seen from Everton at Goodison in years, we caused them a lot of problems doing that. Since then we've lost 2 of the 3 starting midfielders, and had to replace them with people who quite simply aren't capable of playing that way. If anything, at Old Trafford the problem was that we pressed far too much, with Simms (who everybody wanted to get picked) looking completely incapable of doing it and so taking himself out of the game every time.
Last edited:
We've got to hope he can work this out in time
Because if he can't, we're relegated
Brutally straightforward situation really
I don't know if he's the man going forward or not. He's the one we have right now though, so we need to back him and the team to the fullest in the hope we can still stay up
Post-season is a different animal, but for right now we all need to band together
Because if he can't, we're relegated
Brutally straightforward situation really
I don't know if he's the man going forward or not. He's the one we have right now though, so we need to back him and the team to the fullest in the hope we can still stay up
Post-season is a different animal, but for right now we all need to band together
Tough question to answer. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle, but I think tactics have to be at least part of it.
The players have played in negative system after negative system (Lampard never played attacking football). Of course they are going to look crap, since Martinez we haven’t hired a single attacking manager and we wonder where all the creativity has gone?
The season under Ancelotti is a great example of this. The players looked amazing under the free flowing attacking system in the first half of the season and dreadful in the negative defensive setup in the second half of the season.
So much about how good a team looks is about how they are set up. It’s alright saying “are the attackers crap” when they are playing miles away from the midfield. Or that defenders look crap when we camp in our own half and give the opposition chance after chance. If the midfield is set up to just act as a screen for the defence then why is everyone shocked that they don’t have the space or time to pick passes?
Players will always look crap in negative systems.
Do La Coruna count?
I don't get the impression he's too bothered if we get relegated or not.
It might just be the front he presents, in an attempt to maintain calm, but I'd hope to hear more fighting talk from him.
It might just be the front he presents, in an attempt to maintain calm, but I'd hope to hear more fighting talk from him.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
Valencia would give us a run for our money
I thought so too at first given the turmoil and protests, but it was/is the same for Deportivo and they're currently in the 3rd tier due to double relegation.
Could be a blueprint for Everton, that.
- Status