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Daz1878
Player Valuation: £8m
Yes, and I imagine the fact we emerged with a point - which keeps us hanging on by our last fingernail - means that he'll consider it to have been some sort of tactical masterclass.
Great. Doesn't really tell us anything new, but great. Let's get him back in and we'll definitely stay up, everybody's happy.
He doesn’t, you need to double Keane’s stats to get the same 22 game average.
However I don’t need stats myself to know which I’d play. One scares the life out of me.
Some people enjoy watching professional athletes running around with flapping arms above anything else. Can’t think of any logical reason to believe Keane is better than coady.
kenada_blue
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Because he's always got a clanger in him. Has done for 6 years and been dropped by half the managers under him.
He's give 2 penalties away in the last 6 games and been targeted by every striker we play against due to being the weak link
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Again, I didn't say Coady has been terrible all season. Didn't even hint at it. I honestly don't know how to make it clearer - i'm not praising Keane or slating Coady, just saying that i'm not so sure that playing Coady instead of Keane would have seen us definitely get 2 more points against Leicester or made us beat Newcastle or whatever. Personally I'd have kept Coady in, I'd have picked Patterson ahead of Holgate or Godfrey, and made other changes to teams at different times too, this isn't me saying Dyche is doing an amazing job and i'm the only one who can see it. I'm just saying I think some of the calls that are being ridiculed are pretty much a coin toss - one crap player or another - and therefore the reaction is a bit unfair.
Again, no argument from me. Feel free to go into the vaults and see what I think of Keane, if anybody has been more consistently critical of him than I have then I'd be surprised.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Fair enough. Likewise though, it’s not a “rank bad take” to suggest that Coady probably wouldn’t have made the individual errors that Keane has made to cost us points. He wasn’t making them in the first half of the season even when we were leaking goals due to Lampard’s terrible tactics and lack of midfield.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
How on earth can anyone suggest that Keane has made 0 errors leading to goals? What the hell is that stat based on?
kenada_blue
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It's probably more down to what stat metrics Dyche thinks are more beneficial to edge a player over another.
Gana is top 3 for tackles and interceptions in the league. He's also top 3 for errors leading to goals for example. You take a risk with what you think is beneficial.
A lot people probably feel that we're running out of games, we can't afford mistakes, and we need to score more.
Therefore things like playing Keane, Holgate, Godfrey who are error prone and then leaving one of your top scorers on the bench for a player who doesn't score... becomes more questionable.
That isn't what I said was a rank bad take! I said that it was a rank bad take to suggest that bringing Keane back in was as big a reason for our impending relegation as losing at home to a number of our relegation rivals. It really, really, isn't.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Fair enough hahaha. I think it is.
Terrarian
Player Valuation: £50m
1 win in 11 is the only stat I need to show my discontent. It has chased other managers out, why is Dyche any different, especially when he's not even putting his strongest side out.
I held on to the thought Lampard could turn it around far too long. Therefore when it isn't good enough, it isn't good enough. He was supposed to make us hard to beat and organised, then picks Keane.
I held on to the thought Lampard could turn it around far too long. Therefore when it isn't good enough, it isn't good enough. He was supposed to make us hard to beat and organised, then picks Keane.
And that's all fair. I can't stress enough that i'm not saying Dyche is blameless and i'd do everything exactly the same as him. I can see why he's doing what he's doing, that's all. I think we have a really poor squad which lacks so many things, and so any combination in any formation is still not very good. He's paid to find solutions and if he can't find them then ultimately he's failed, that's how the game works, but I do think people are being harsh calling him a clown or clueless or whatever. Lampard had us 19th with his own players and effectively 2 pre-seasons to work on things - that's why we are where we are. Dyche was always up against it coming in when he did (I said after the Southampton loss in early January that I didn't think we had enough winnable games left to get out of it so I'm sort of surprised that we're still in with a shout at this point personally) but it feels like he's ending up getting blamed because he's not been able to pull a rabbit out of the hat.
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