2022/23 Sean Dyche

[MACCA75]

Personally I don’t think there is a great future with Dyche style football. The game these days is about playing out from the back and dominating the ball.
We need a manager to come in with a history of coaching it (Lampard hadn’t) and to be brave enough to stick with it.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I agree, but his style is based upon percentage football (win the second ball) we will never dominate games playing like that, we will never have sustained attacks consistently, we will never gain momentum. I dont see Dyche playing football any other way than what he's done all his career.
Look at De Zerbi as an example he has bang average players playing at their maximum like Dunk March etc... because of the style they play.
Emery has transformed Villa
Howe Newcastle
Silva Fulham

Brighton Villa Newcastle all have significantly better players than we do.

Even Newcastle’s squad under Bruce was better, Saint Maximin, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson Willock, Schar, Longstaff all walk into our team, and that was before he added Guimaraes Isaak Botman Trippier etc.

Villa had a very good squad with a clown Gerrard in charge. Emery is a top manager but he wouldn’t be repeating what he did there with this group of players.

Dunk and March are not average at all, March is lightning quick and our fullbacks couldn’t even stay with him. He also inherited Caicedo McAllister Mitoma etc. All of whom will be off to top 6 clubs in the near future. How many of our players would get such a move?

 

[maccavennie]

Dyche is miles better than Allardyce in my view. Allardyce was playing ultra low blocks and five at the back when he actually had attacking options plus funds to buy players in January. I just don’t think Allardyce could manage the performance we saw against Brighton, we’d have gone in looking for a 0-0 then given up if we’d conceded or looked for a set piece equaliser. We’d have protected the 1-0 loss to Spurs when we’d gone a man down. We wouldn’t have been pushing for a winner against Leicester away.

Allardyce is the anti christ of football. Absolutely hate that he was our manager for longer than a minute.

 

[Toffeelover]

Weve just gone and hit brighton for 5?

Look at the game, the score was great but the play broke from defence, you are blinded that we scored 5. Dyche set out to defend, Brighton had to open up to try and get back in the game.

 

[JLW]

Brighton Villa Newcastle all have significantly better players than we do.

Even Newcastle’s squad under Bruce was better, Saint Maximin, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson Willock, Schar, Longstaff all walk into our team, and that was before he added Guimaraes Isaak Botman Trippier etc.

Villa had a very good squad with a clown Gerrard in charge. Emery is a top manager but he wouldn’t be repeating what he did there with this group of players.

Dunk and March are not average at all, March is lightning quick and our fullbacks couldn’t even stay with him. He also inherited Caicedo McAllister Mitoma etc. All of whom will be off to top 6 clubs in the near future. How many of our players would get such a move?

Do they have significantly better players?

We was all laughing at Joelinton last year
We was hating the fact that we were linked with Longstaff
The 3 Brighton players are very good and the stars of their team.

My point is that we are talking these players up now because of the managers they have, that are maximizing their talents.

Our players are crap granted, but i think they are not playing to their maximum.

 

[gedefc]

Look at the game, the score was great but the play broke from defence, you are blinded that we scored 5. Dyche set out to defend, Brighton had to open up to try and get back in the game.

haha blinded that we scored five, what a line that is.

Ok, he shouldve opened up and been beaten 3-0.

 

[gedefc]

Do they have significantly better players?

We was all laughing at Joelinton last year
We was hating the fact that we were linked with Longstaff
The 3 Brighton players are very good and the stars of their team.

My point is that we are talking these players up now because of the managers they have, that are maximizing their talents.

Our players are crap granted, but i think they are not playing to their maximum.

mcneil is a good example here, he's currently our best player on form. Looks completely different to the one clueless Frank was trying to play.

 

[maccavennie]

Do they have significantly better players?

We was all laughing at Joelinton last year
We was hating the fact that we were linked with Longstaff
The 3 Brighton players are very good and the stars of their team.

My point is that we are talking these players up now because of the managers they have, that are maximizing their talents.

Our players are crap granted, but i think they are not playing to their maximum.

Half these players played under Andelotti. I just watched the away Derby against the rs 2-0 and we had Keane, Holgate, Godfrey and Davies in the side. We still finished 10th and that's with one of the greatest managers of all time.

Our squad is utter horse dung.

 

[Pabbers]

I was saying this to the lads at the match yesterday, Dyche should be given time but he absolutely 100% should be able to be criticised by fans without wanting him sacked.

I am on the fence with him, ill be honest I think some of what he has done since he come in as been a bit weird - the whole supporting of Keane for so long was crazy, however I do think if we should stay up he should be given at least the opportunity to do something and try to build. Get out this cycle of change.

My opinion if we go down is probably a little different if am honest.

My opinion like, but any manager should be criticised if needed - but that doesn't mean you want him sacked.

Keep us up its a brilliant achievement, but I absolutely still think some of his decisions have kept us in it a little longer, even with our god awful squad.

Agree with most, ppl certainly can be unhappy with certain decisons and we are lal allowed our opininons...its the bo-polar extreme nature of it AGAIN.

And TBH, im not sure some of these so called bad decisions he has made, are even THAT bad.

Seems to be Keane & Holgate, and thats it.

Its always something with our fans....something thats the end of the world, none of his decisions have harmed us THAT much IMO, and I completely get Dyche reasons for wanting to trust a player he has known for around 10 years.

If we lack any options, its vertainly NOT down to Dyche, its the board and who put this squad together.

 

[Rob17896]

Writing was on the wall for him with me on his first day. Black shoes with blue jeans ffs.

Anything other than trainers screams Alderley Edge...

 

[Lanolin]

Agree with most, ppl certainly can be unhappy with certain decisons and we are lal allowed our opininons...its the bo-polar extreme nature of it AGAIN.

And TBH, im not sure some of these so called bad decisions he has made, are even THAT bad.

Seems to be Keane & Holgate, and thats it.

Its always something with our fans....something thats the end of the world, none of his decisions have harmed us THAT much IMO, and I completely get Dyche reasons for wanting to trust a player he has known for around 10 years.

If we lack any options, its vertainly NOT down to Dyche, its the board and who put this squad together.

Yeah this is it for me. I think it's absolutely fine and normal for people to be unhappy about certain things or say they'd have done it differently, but this insistence on making out that perfectly rational decisions are unfathomable is just weird.

 

[twoblue]

I agree, but his style is based upon percentage football (win the second ball) we will never dominate games playing like that, we will never have sustained attacks consistently, we will never gain momentum. I dont see Dyche playing football any other way than what he's done all his career.
Look at De Zerbi as an example he has bang average players playing at their maximum like Dunk March etc... because of the style they play.
Emery has transformed Villa
Howe Newcastle
Silva Fulham

They all need to do it for another season before we heap to much praise on them.
Dyche has come in, no preseason, no attacker. Improved us marginally.
I would hope we see big improvement from next season just in terms of set up.
Pref in the prem still

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I agree, but his style is based upon percentage football (win the second ball) we will never dominate games playing like that, we will never have sustained attacks consistently, we will never gain momentum. I dont see Dyche playing football any other way than what he's done all his career.
Look at De Zerbi as an example he has bang average players playing at their maximum like Dunk March etc... because of the style they play.
Emery has transformed Villa
Howe Newcastle
Silva Fulham

He's a pragmatist and so his style is dictated on the players he has.

You're judging him on his time at Burnley, and the relegation fodder he's inherited at Everton.

You give Howe as the example. Let's remember he's had time and money at Newcastle. Prior that, well - this was the view;

If Brands does dozens of interviews and his final answer is Eddie Howe then Brands himself needs volleying right out the club with immediate effect.

Maybe we can acknowledge that keeping Everton up would be the best individual managerial achievement at Everton in nearly a decade and give the 51 year old manager a chance.

If not, give another name who we should sack Sean Dyche for.

 

[Rob17896]

Agree with most, ppl certainly can be unhappy with certain decisons and we are lal allowed our opininons...its the bo-polar extreme nature of it AGAIN.

And TBH, im not sure some of these so called bad decisions he has made, are even THAT bad.

Seems to be Keane & Holgate, and thats it.

Its always something with our fans....something thats the end of the world, none of his decisions have harmed us THAT much IMO, and I completely get Dyche reasons for wanting to trust a player he has known for around 10 years.

If we lack any options, its vertainly NOT down to Dyche, its the board and who put this squad together.

The problem is the squad has been put together by various managers, Directors of Football and members of the board. What the hell do the idiots at the top think will happen? It is like eight of us all having a go at signing a couple of players and expecting the right blend in the squad. Although carried away with our new found riches at the time, I was slightly disturbed when we had four No 10s.

Moshiri holds all the shares, it is his fault. If Blue Bill is out of order then he has been allowed to be. If we stay up and Dyche get's us to about seventh and financially stable, Moshiri will be off again with his 'Hollywood signings.' We want stability and a trophy, Moshiri wants to increase his share price to a market that does not understand or care about football. Rich man's toys is all many of our clubs have become.

 

[Rob17896]

He's a pragmatist and so his style is dictated on the players he has.

You're judging him on his time at Burnley, and the relegation fodder he's inherited at Everton.

You give Howe as the example. Let's remember he's had time and money at Newcastle. Prior that, well - this was the view;



Maybe we can acknowledge that keeping Everton up would be the best individual managerial achievement at Everton in nearly a decade and give the 51 year old manager a chance.

If not, give another name who we should sack Sean Dyche for.

We are quite exciting on the counter now. Give him a bit of time to improve his squad and who knows? He could maybe win something. Changing a manager every twelve months certainly will not.