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2022/23 Sean Dyche

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MikeH72 said:
Oh I agree, some people are deluded.

3 wins in 14. Fast approaching Lampard’s record for this season. But these are only facts, you don’t have to observe them.
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Wins in the league:
Benitez - 5 in 19
Lampard - 6 in 18
Lampard 3 in 20
Dyche - 3 in 14 (with 4 to play)

Can extrapolate them to Benitez 10 in 38, Lampard 9 in 38. Dyche is on for 8.14 in 38 if my maths is correct.

It’s astonishingly consistent appointments by the board with a slight negative trajectory.
 
Brett Angell Delight said:
That last point is the one, for me. In isolation, even in their current form, a draw at Leicester isn’t a bad result. At this stage, though, I felt it was more “must win” than “mustn’t lose”.

Gray for Doucoure, with Iwobi slotting into CM, and/or Simms up with DCL for a double-grock battering ram play could have given their defenders - who we’d given a pretty torrid time to, tbf - nightmares after 70-75 mins.

Could have backfired, as you say all decisions can, but on the balance of how the game was going I’d have bet more on it putting them on the ropes for us to have a good few swings at.

As it is, now, it’s still out of our hands, with two likely wallopings on the horizon. A fluke result or two elsewhere and the game is up without us getting the chance to make the Bournemouth game count.
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In truth I think he cacked it. But, we all know what would be being said on here if we lost after going gung ho. Lol, gung ho, Dyche. What am I typing.

Anyway, he has made changes previously but only out of desperation. The Simms sub vs Chelsea paid off. His first instinct is clearly to not lose late on.
 

Marius57 said:
In the league:
Benitez - 5 in 19
Lampard - 6 in 18
Lampard 3 in 20
Dyche - 3 in 14 (with 4 to play)

Can extrapolate them to Benitez 10 in 38, Lampard 9 in 38. Dyche is on for 8.14 in 38 if my maths is correct.

It’s astonishingly consistent appointments by the board with a slight negative trajectory.
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God that's a miserable set of figures.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Understand what you're saying mate but I think the majority of people are heavily influenced by commentators/pundits and just regurgitate.

There's a balance - sometimes the stats/data can help. I guess that's why football clubs employ massive amount of insights/data staff.
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Alot of the pundits are like sheep. Most of them said Martinez was too small for the premier league and would be bullied. Pe and behold he’s probably been one of the best defenders in the league. I and others on here see the game how we see it and stats can be skewed to fit an agenda. But as a fan you got to trust what you see for yourself.
 
kiss the crest said:
When you say he has giving us a fighting chance, he hasn't he has won 1 game in 11 now he had the perfect chance to win that game yesterday by being proactive and managing the game as it was seen by every fan, he is not utilising the players at his disposal to give us that fighting chance, it's the other teams that are keeping Everton having a fighting chance because their not taking their chances Forest a perfect example on sat
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The perfect chance to win the game except for the fairly important bit where the team is utterly rubbish.
 
Daveysgingerlovechild said:
God that's a miserable set of figures.
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If you include draws.
Lampard would have got us to 35 points across a season.
Benitez would have got 38 points across a season.
Dyche would be on for 37 points.

It’s entertaining stuff. These are the Good Times Bill was on about. Imagine being a boring mid table team with nothing to play for with 5/6 games to go.
 

Brett Angell Delight said:
That last point is the one, for me. In isolation, even in their current form, a draw at Leicester isn’t a bad result. At this stage, though, I felt it was more “must win” than “mustn’t lose”.

Gray for Doucoure, with Iwobi slotting into CM, and/or Simms up with DCL for a double-grock battering ram play could have given their defenders - who we’d given a pretty torrid time to, tbf - nightmares after 70-75 mins.

Could have backfired, as you say all decisions can, but on the balance of how the game was going I’d have bet more on it putting them on the ropes for us to have a good few swings at.

As it is, now, it’s still out of our hands, with two likely wallopings on the horizon. A fluke result or two elsewhere and the game is up without us getting the chance to make the Bournemouth game count.
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Spot on. Said it earlier - game management and handling how the game is panning out, not just being reactive, but making proactive changes could have won us the points.

It was chaotic, but we had nothing left and that’s why they kept coming - onana, gray and simms on would have changed that and we could have spent even more time in their half and fashioned further chances.

Instead he sat there frozen in the headlights, and if his back room team aren’t suggesting different tactics or changes then what’s the point of them?
 
MikeH72 said:
You understand how stats are collated in the first place right? By someone actually sitting and watching the game with their eyeballs? The eye test is absolutely everything, because it’s real life and not a computer generated algorithm.
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Great managers make changes in game and know by watching where things are going wrong. You can collate stats on players after the game but a great manage has to manage the game fluid as he or she is seeing it and that’s why they are paid well. There are more ways to create a football idea, team philosophy than just collecting data. Football is so much more than that.
 
Marius57 said:
Wins in the league:
Benitez - 5 in 19
Lampard - 6 in 18
Lampard 3 in 20
Dyche - 3 in 14 (with 4 to play)

Can extrapolate them to Benitez 10 in 38, Lampard 9 in 38. Dyche is on for 8.14 in 38 if my maths is correct.

It’s astonishingly consistent appointments by the board with a slight negative trajectory.
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Maybe just maybe it’s not the managers and we just have a club full of incompetent losers

Thanks Bill
 

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