2023/24 Sean Dyche

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it’s madness the abuse he’s getting
Some people can’t separate dreams from reality. They think Everton should be challenging for honours with fantastic players driven on by world class manager. In reality we have a squad, wafer thin by the way, full of average to crap players. Therefore, Sean Dyche is actually the perfect manager to guide us through these difficult times, and hopefully keep us in the Premier League. It is quite amazing that we have accrued 28 points on the pitch this season given the circumstances. Sean I salute you ;)
 

Irrelevant - we'll play crap idealess football with him at the helm was my point, not if we LITERALLY have Messi's toe or something.

He only signs limited, tall or old players, it's who he is. It will always be a hard watch and we'll always be like we are now - preparing for a relegation fight from game 1.

He's doing an okay job and he is a hindrance to his own and our progress as much as any point deduction or anything else that can have any effect on us.
He doesn’t need to be our manager then though does he? Why can’t we just accept him being good at what we need him to do while we need him to do it and then if and when we’re in a position to need something wise we get somebody who is good at that instead? Is that too complicated for you or what?
 
He’s 3 points behind Chelsea ignoring points deduction and bar a god awful penalty would have had us in a cup semi final. Yes we had a bad start, but then we also had a load of injuries and unfit signings to deal with early season.

Not sure what more you expect from him with this squad? Top 4??!!! This has been our problem for years, even when people are doing a good job it’s not good enough for some. Rom gets 30 goals a season but apparently was lazy according to some on this board.

He’s not perfect but this team is barely premier league standard yet has the most clean sheets, creates loads of chances and is by points won mid table. If any of our DOFs had actually found even a 10 goal a season striker we’d have been well safe, points deduction or not.
 
He’s 3 points behind Chelsea ignoring points deduction and bar a god awful penalty would have had us in a cup semi final. Yes we had a bad start, but then we also had a load of injuries and unfit signings to deal with early season.

Not sure what more you expect from him with this squad? Top 4??!!! This has been our problem for years, even when people are doing a good job it’s not good enough for some. Rom gets 30 goals a season but apparently was lazy according to some on this board.

He’s not perfect but this team is barely premier league standard yet has the most clean sheets, creates loads of chances and is by points won mid table. If any of our DOFs had actually found even a 10 goal a season striker we’d have been well safe, points deduction or not.
still can’t believe that pen
 

I know the attackers have been woeful in converting chances but we seem to be neglecting to do little things that could bolster our chances like I noticed when a player shoots on goal, no one is in position to seize an opportunity if the ball bounces off the post or the goalkeeper deflects the ball into the box. I don't if it's the instinct isn't there or the attackers have instructions not to place themselves to close to goal if they have to backtrack.

I've been critical of Doucoure in the past but a couple of his goals this season have been poached ricochets because he was positioned advantageously
 
I know the attackers have been woeful in converting chances but we seem to be neglecting to do little things that could bolster our chances like I noticed when a player shoots on goal, no one is in position to seize an opportunity if the ball bounces off the post or the goalkeeper deflects the ball into the box. I don't if it's the instinct isn't there or the attackers have instructions not to place themselves to close to goal if they have to backtrack.

I've been critical of Doucoure in the past but a couple of his goals this season have been poached ricochets because he was positioned advantageously
You’ve probably answered your own question there then.
 
You're aware it's how he works and what will 100% happen and is happening here too anyway, right?

The other 2 are absolute excuses, for which he has a lot of people making those.

He has amassed, but now imagine if we'd had any sort of moderately average home form and didn't lose about 7 on the bounce early season - all his doing, stubborn selections until players got injured.

Or now - imagine if we had an apparently impossible plan B for when Doucoure can't play. But alas, we cannot, as it is Sean Dyche - who is truly the most limiting person for Sean Dyche.

You say "he's not beyond reproach" but are willing to die on the hill of "he's doing a fantastic job" when people actually give him any criticism and say he's getting abused lol He has more flaws than positives to be a long term manager for us; Budget Sam Allerdyce.
No brown envelopes, so not Allardyce (allegedly).
 
Sorry what will 100% happen? You've lost me with that first sentence.

I asked you who he should have signed, and who/how he should play in place of Doucs as that was/is your criticism? You don't know the answer, you haven't even got an opinion. Sound.

I'm not prepared to die on any hill, I think he's done a very good job in the circumstances we're in, and he is precisely what we need, right now. His points gained on the pitch, which is THE benchmark, proves that.

I don't recall saying he was abused, I think that was someone else, but the smiley face tells me you seem confident I did? Either way it's easy to shout and call him out after the event, but you're all over the place when it comes to what we actually need to do.
I've voiced my opinion about 9999999999 times on here about this - we HAVE NO PLAN B. Is it my job to think of literally a second effective way to play? No. But it seems a no-brainer to have someone like Harrison or McNeil there, as they can at least trap a ball consistently, doesn't it? Or switch the entire tactical setup/instructions a bit so we don't rely ONLY on counters and nothing else, so that the obvious doesn't happen - teams have figured out how we play about 2 months back now, yet we have no solution for this. Maybe try to at least involve the full backs instead of having a line of defenders in games where we've got the upper hand a bit more? Or perhaps, and here's a wild one, try and involve one of the youngsters when we're chasing the game, but not in the 81st minute? But I have no opinion apparently.

And what will 100% happen - sorry, maybe read it again? Or maybe realise that Sean Dyche will sign aging, tall, crap players for his entire career, as it is what Sean Dyche does. Even if we get Saudi money somehow - he will insist on the same stubbornness. I have no other way to say this, it is what he's done for 15 years - Burnley or not, he's spent a decent amount of money on utter garbage, including Wout Weghorst, who fits the criteria Beto does now coincidentally - "is big". Some of the free transfers that got signed in Germany/Spain and England were apparently not good enough for us, while they're doing quite well in their respective leagues now, loans are illegal at Everton too obviously, but during the summer I pointed out some we could probably try for and got laughed at as it's unrealistic and we're skint naturally :)

I've said a lot of times here what we should do to be fair, even when we win.

What is all over the place exactly? You're defending everything he's doing currently and insisting he's doing a great job, whereas I'm saying he can do a better job if he wasn't a stubborn arse. Sorry I'm unhappy my team has this dinosaur as a manager and it makes watching the games a chore, glad the 7 matches or so when we've played well absolutely excuse the fact that we were dogturd for the other 15 or so, including a double loss vs Luton at home to set pieces and them sitting back. Or the silly selections, the lack of subs, actually quoting xG in a press conference as justification for our bad results when we barely have a plan going forward other than utter chaos and hoof it in 90% of the game.

If he changes a lot of his ways he'll be a great manager, but then he won't be here. Currently he's holding himself back with bizarre stubbornness.

Also honestly just sick of excuses - the same excuses that are now valid weren't valid for many before him. Using the same xG logic and lack of plans we should've just sat with Martinez ages ago. Oh yeah and the players are apparently League 2 standard, despite the fact it's not the case and he can't consistently get a tune out of 90% of them, or just switches players for no reason so he can play Ashley Young for his alleged experience.

I'm aware we can't sack him and we shouldn't now anyway, but to think that there's no manager in european football that can do a good/better job than him is a hilarious bad take.
 

I've voiced my opinion about 9999999999 times on here about this - we HAVE NO PLAN B. Is it my job to think of literally a second effective way to play? No. But it seems a no-brainer to have someone like Harrison or McNeil there, as they can at least trap a ball consistently, doesn't it? Or switch the entire tactical setup/instructions a bit so we don't rely ONLY on counters and nothing else, so that the obvious doesn't happen - teams have figured out how we play about 2 months back now, yet we have no solution for this. Maybe try to at least involve the full backs instead of having a line of defenders in games where we've got the upper hand a bit more? Or perhaps, and here's a wild one, try and involve one of the youngsters when we're chasing the game, but not in the 81st minute? But I have no opinion apparently.

And what will 100% happen - sorry, maybe read it again? Or maybe realise that Sean Dyche will sign aging, tall, crap players for his entire career, as it is what Sean Dyche does. Even if we get Saudi money somehow - he will insist on the same stubbornness. I have no other way to say this, it is what he's done for 15 years - Burnley or not, he's spent a decent amount of money on utter garbage, including Wout Weghorst, who fits the criteria Beto does now coincidentally - "is big". Some of the free transfers that got signed in Germany/Spain and England were apparently not good enough for us, while they're doing quite well in their respective leagues now, loans are illegal at Everton too obviously, but during the summer I pointed out some we could probably try for and got laughed at as it's unrealistic and we're skint naturally :)

I've said a lot of times here what we should do to be fair, even when we win.

What is all over the place exactly? You're defending everything he's doing currently and insisting he's doing a great job, whereas I'm saying he can do a better job if he wasn't a stubborn arse. Sorry I'm unhappy my team has this dinosaur as a manager and it makes watching the games a chore, glad the 7 matches or so when we've played well absolutely excuse the fact that we were dogturd for the other 15 or so, including a double loss vs Luton at home to set pieces and them sitting back. Or the silly selections, the lack of subs, actually quoting xG in a press conference as justification for our bad results when we barely have a plan going forward other than utter chaos and hoof it in 90% of the game.

If he changes a lot of his ways he'll be a great manager, but then he won't be here. Currently he's holding himself back with bizarre stubbornness.

Also honestly just sick of excuses - the same excuses that are now valid weren't valid for many before him. Using the same xG logic and lack of plans we should've just sat with Martinez ages ago. Oh yeah and the players are apparently League 2 standard, despite the fact it's not the case and he can't consistently get a tune out of 90% of them, or just switches players for no reason so he can play Ashley Young for his alleged experience.

I'm aware we can't sack him and we shouldn't now anyway, but to think that there's no manager in european football that can do a good/better job than him is a hilarious bad take.
Yawn. I've heard it all before. About 9999999998 times in fact.
 
Do Dyche sides ever have an exciting and/or unpredictable attacking player? That's one of the few worries for me about us compared to everyone else in the league (particularly down at the bottom). Other teams might be terrible but they have at least one or two match winner type players who go against the grain of the well oiled machine system which Dyche tries to attest to. You see it with Palace for example...they chug along but they have star quality in people like Eze and Olise that can blow teams away in an instant, kind of like James (i miss you).

Think Steven defour was the only flair player he’s had…
 
I'll keep going thanks because it's absolutely true. EVERY club has a load of overpaid crap. It comes with the territory. We really only have Dele Ali on the sides which I'd say is a lot less baggage than most clubs have in the league.

You’re joking right?

Nobody with exception of United can even compare to how bad our recruitment has been
 
1) Yes - he was at Burnley for 10 years, had money at several points and spent a good chunk on some absolute utter crap.
2) Yes - read the above. He signed Ashley Young for us lol
3) Yes - no plan B at any point (Doucoure out for a game = pantshitting time), no proactive subs/actions, these things cost us points or games in both the short and long term.

You’re right , he should have signed bale, Rooney, Robinho for burnley
 

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