You are correct but the point is that we need a few games with a proper forward line to make a judgement. Our board ensured forwards were a luxury item prior to the last fortnight.
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Seen more helmets than hitler
Abertonian
Player Valuation: £20m
Think the players misheard him when he challenged them to be the 'fittest' in the league.
We had a striker at the weekend
GoldenToffee
Player Valuation: £60m
Agreed, I think they understood 'schittest', instead.
Imagine a world were football fans are making excuses based on almosts
Sure we used to take the piss out of the RS for their alternative leagues. I guess the threshold has been crossed
We're 7th in the xPts should-have-been table this morning. Good stuff.
8 more games before the November international break. We need to have seen progression by that point with a decent number of points on the board. I think that's the time to make a better assessment of the season.
So far, it's been nowhere near good enough. So we need a big improvement in the next couple of months, and by improvement I mean results. No other statistic or metric matters.
So far, it's been nowhere near good enough. So we need a big improvement in the next couple of months, and by improvement I mean results. No other statistic or metric matters.
Kev The Rat
Player Valuation: £70m
Get out
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
I know a lot of people don't place much importance on stats and data (although worth pointing out here that Brighton's rise has been driven almost entirely on the clever use of stats and data), but accepting that the sample size here is pretty small, it's the main reason I'm not panicking. My perception watching the games is that we've been unlucky and that we should have scored more goals and got more points than we have. The data backs this up. The actual worry, from my perspective, again born out by the stats, is that defensively we've looked much less secure than I'd expect from a Dyche team.
Go back to last season and it's the reverse. At this point under Lampard we were on 2 points, but we were overperforming on our xGA and it led to some OTT perceptions that we'd sorted our defence out with the Tarkowski and Coady coming in.
The data tells us at the moment we've scored far fewer goals than we should have, but we've conceded almost the number that we should have too. On the one hand that gives me some comfort because we've brought in new attacking players who are only just getting up and running so you'd hope that will help on getting the ball in the net, but the red flag is the defensive numbers - that has to improve.
Arsed to play beautiful - I want us to win.
Patterson can't play a forward pass because we play no right winger, he did that fine last year interestingly enough.
Gana's given it away easily when asked to do anything more than a defensive mid, which for us he doesn't do.
Onana can't be a jack of all trades because he just can't, he's not that type of player, yet Dyche uses him like that.
Fans are chomping at the bits because he's a defensive manager who can't set us up to defend and let all his defenders go, we're playing crap (result wise, style wise of course we are, it's Sean "4-4-facking-2" Dyche but it'd be okay if we got results), the guy's ingame management is abysmal, he obviously can't set up the team to play as a team other than "lump it to the big guy" and depend on a moment of magic, and he insists to play favourites until it's way too late.
All of the above? Manager's decisions. Nothing to do with who is on the board. It could be Jesus of Nazareth as owner and Sean Dyche will still be a dinosaur. A proper Kenwright hire, in that way, so yeah we are in this situation because he hired him but the buck stops there with fat Bill.
Pile on the apologies though, it's the players, the DoF, the academy, the stadium, the pitch, lack of luck, tea lady, Dom's clothing, the ghost of Tom Davies' skateboard, "Villa are in Europe so it's okay it could've been a basketball score", "Wolves are obviously better than us", "we shouldn't expect anything from Fulham at home", and last but not least, the chairman of course. Everything but the manager and his mistakes.
Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £25m
I think people need to remember the opposition. Fulham were rancid that day and Wolves are poor. We gifted both 3 points. We'd be lucky to get another 4 or 5 games against opposition that bad this season.
We are bang in trouble and Dyche is a large part of the reason why.
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
I’ve said a few times that we need to give the manager 10 games and then see how things are going. Overall in the season we need probably 10 wins and 10 draws to be assured of safety, there are 38 games in a season, we have only had 4 so far.
I think 3 of them have been close, we’ve been in the games and should have gotten positive results from 3 of the 4 games.
Hopefully after the international break we will have Harrison back and McNeil will be more match fit.
I think against Sheffield Utd you could at least see patterns of play and what we were trying to do offensively. The players that are out there are playing for the manager and the club.
I think 3 of them have been close, we’ve been in the games and should have gotten positive results from 3 of the 4 games.
Hopefully after the international break we will have Harrison back and McNeil will be more match fit.
I think against Sheffield Utd you could at least see patterns of play and what we were trying to do offensively. The players that are out there are playing for the manager and the club.
I agree with just about nothing of that but no point to wax lyrical forever like that mate - he's just objectively and subjectively not a good manager.
On average 6 in 23 is about that or worse as we were last year after 23 games. Saying "...but with a striker" is the same as what I said about xG - not based in reality as there's no proof it will happen. We had a striker the other day and we still could've easily lost if it wasn't for a freak save/situation/post... thing ( lol ) at the end with Pickford.
On the last paragraph - from the day we were rumoured I've said I'd be okay if he changed his ways and he wasn't still stuck in Burnley land; late subs, nonsense selections/teams, lack of identity (not talking about "style" here, rather efficiency). I'm shockingly not against him, I don't want this to be a Lampard situation again, which it is - we're 1 out of 12 currently, that's in no way a good start and it falls on the manager for obvious mistakes we all saw - that's on Dyche.
Last season, btw, I've said my piece a million times, but we could've been safe several games earlier, but he only knows 1 thing, and unlucky for him that 1 thing got a stupid red card against Tottenham - it showed the team isn't built around a striker but around the guy who plays behind, who is apparently only Doucoure lol as when he went away we changed, in no order, to hoofball with 3 at the back, hoofball with 4 at the back, etc., instead of doing the unthinkable - retaining the same shape that works and putting any other player in the Doucoure position. It's not like Doucoure himself is prime Mesut Ozil, the lad controls the ball with his shinpads 9/10 times ffs.
What I'm saying is I'd love Gravelvoice if he'd changed his ways, but right now we're the blue Burnley and he seems to not have changed/adapted his was 1 iota. We're preparing to fail and go to the Championship unless he adapts. Which he won't, because 1) evidence, eye test, statistics and actual football on display tell us he won't, 2) he's Sean Dyche. People memed on him for being a football dinosaur, and I honestly held hope that it's just memes, but it isn't really, is it?
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