2023/24 Sean Dyche

[siddharth]

Personally, I don't like dyche all that much but do I support him 100% when he is our manager? Yeah absolutely. But, good teams become good because their managers get better when managing them. We all want the right things for the club. So dyche has to improve as well and criticism delivered in favour of this notion should always be welcome (right?).

Dyche is no spring chicken either, here is a bloke who compared himself to Guardiola because he didn't do substitutions during a game, so isn't it fine? Everton may not be in a position to sack dyche but we did have a positive transfer budget at the end of the window so you never know. So the only question is whether Everton can get better fast enough. We are still a premier league club.

Right now certain styles of play are almost guaranteed to work against the current side and that is not necessarily on the players. Unless we improve, it will not matter if the opposition is good or bad. We will have some good games, no doubt but will they be frequent enough? I personally am not fond of a good day only at the end of the season, but I wouldn't mind it.

 

[Blue Smoke]

Worst thing about us is we sack a manager without even considering who comes in. It becomes as ridiculous as our transfer season. I'm sure Bill and moshiri love the drama of it all.

 

[Toffeelover]

Worst thing about us is we sack a manager without even considering who comes in. It becomes as ridiculous as our transfer season. I'm sure Bill and moshiri love the drama of it all.

But we are peed off it.

 

[blueboy72]

Brighton - out of our league
Wolves - Promised the gaffer he'd have money. Left when they didn't.

Hasenhuttl is an absolute fraud who hasn't found a job since being turfed out of Southampton. And anyone who gets pumped 9.0 in back to back seasons isn't someone you want with relegation threatened side.

We fire managers after 18 months. The only way we bring in one of those names is by paying them handsomely as they use it as a fall back - see Rafael Benitez and his £14million payout - not because we're "a big name"

We're not anymore. We're a relegation threatened club with no money and a basket case owner looking to sell.

I wouldn’t want hassebhuttl but you said he wouldn’t come to Everton. Which is laughable. What do you think wolves offered the Spanish guy. All the paella he could eat.

You do realise managers aren’t going to city, utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and doing the job for nothing because of their pull. The biggest league in the world and all clubs will pay top dollar.

And 2 yrs ago Leicester were out of our league, Brighton will be back fighting around the bottom 6 in 3yrs, small clubs constantly selling their best players, it will only end one way

 

[kenada_blue]

I wouldn’t want hassebhuttl but you said he wouldn’t come to Everton. Which is laughable. What do you think wolves offered the Spanish guy. All the paella he could eat.

You do realise managers aren’t going to city, utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and doing the job for nothing because of their pull. The biggest league in the world and all clubs will pay top dollar.

And 2 yrs ago Leicester were out of our league, Brighton will be back fighting around the bottom 6 in 3yrs, small clubs constantly selling their best players, it will only end one way

Leicester's owners made cut backs to save money as their main business lost billions.

Brighton will be fine for another decade. They've generated £300mill of pure profit based on player sales and not spend any of it. Financially they're secure to spend money to replace players if they want when things get tricky. Any manager would love to go to that project.

Wolves spent £77mill in January. £120mill before that. Lopetegui was then told he's got nothing to spend this summer and they sold £90mill of players so he quit.

It's not about manager taking jobs because they're available in the prem, it's about what these managers walk into. In our case it's a skip fire.

Everton Managerial Job Offer-
£3-6mill a year
Transfer funds - £0
Percentage of players sold - Small
Fans Objective - Comfortably mid table playing entertaining football
Main Objective - Staying in the league.

I'm sure there'll be a queue of name managers wanting that stress.

 

[Goat]

Everton Managerial Job Offer-
£3-6mill a year

This gives you access to 90% of managers in world football.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

This gives you access to 90% of managers in world football.

What % of them could drink from the poisoned chalice and not end up like the bloke from Last Crusade?

 

[kenada_blue]

This gives you access to 90% of managers in world football.

If that was the only thing most of them were fully interested in....Why haven't they all flocked to Saudi?

 

[Goat]

If that was the only thing most of them were fully interested in....Why haven't they all flocked to Saudi?

Cos there are only 20 managerial jobs in Saudi.

Or however many clubs there are in that league.

 

[kenada_blue]

Cos there are only 20 managerial jobs in Saudi.

Or however many clubs there are in that league.

It was an example of managers just going to the money.

And I'm not saying we wouldn't get a manager interested...I'm saying we wouldn't get some of these names being spouted based purely on the fact they managed at better ran club's than ours.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

If that was the only thing most of them were fully interested in....Why haven't they all flocked to Saudi?

I bet the main criteria a manager will look at when taking a job are;

- How much will I get paid

- How much will I be paid if/when I get sacked

- How long will the contract be

- How prestigious is the league I'll be managing in

- How much transfer money will I have to spend

- How good is the squad already and does it have any leaders

- Where will I live and how far away will I have to be from my friends/family

- Risk Vs Reward of taking the job overall

- Do I have any sort of affinity for the club in question

I'm sure there's other stuff I'm missing

 

[Goat]

It was an example of managers just going to the money.

And I'm not saying we wouldn't get a manager interested...I'm saying we wouldn't get some of these names being spouted based purely on the fact they managed at better ran club's than ours.

Well 5% of managers earn more than we could offer, the other 5% arent interested in money or are playing the long game of getting money the slower successful way.

The other 90% would run over hot coals for 6m a year.

1	Diego Simeone	Argentina	Atletico Madrid	La Liga	30 million
2	Pep Guardiola	Spain	Manchester City	Premier League	19.5 million
3	Jurgen Klopp	Germany	Liverpool	Premier League	16 million
=4	Erik ten Hag	Netherlands	Manchester United	Premier League	10 million
=4	Thomas Tuchel	Germany	Bayern Munich	Bundesliga	10 million
6	Mikel Artera	Spain	Arsenal	Premier League	9.5 million
7	Massimiliano Allegri	Italy	Juventus	Serie A	8 million
8	Carlo Ancelotti	Italy	Real Madrid	La Liga	6.5 million
9	José Mourinho	Portugal	Roma	Serie A	6.2 million
10	Simone Inzaghi	Italy	Inter	Serie A	4.5 million

 

[Ruairi77]

Get new club investment
get a guarantee of a player budget.
get Lopetegui

He'll deliver the mid table security everyone is thinking Dyche will.
There's obviously no point in doing this while M&K are still in charge.
In fact there's no point in changing anything while they're in charge.
I guarantee you Brighton and Brentford have a new manager short list with the top picks on stand by for when their bosses inevitably get poached.
Everton will scratch around in the dirt for 6 games pouring points down the drain while any perspective manager pushes hard for a contract that'll make them super wealthy when, finally, it becomes impossible to manage in such a dysfunctional mess of a club.

 

[kenada_blue]

I bet the main criteria a manager will look at when taking a job are;

- How much will I get paid

- How much will I be paid if/when I get sacked

- How long will the contract be

- How prestigious is the league I'll be managing in

- How much transfer money will I have to spend

- How good is the squad already and does it have any leaders

- Where will I live and how far away will I have to be from my friends/family

- Risk Vs Reward of taking the job overall

- Do I have any sort of affinity for the club in question

I'm sure there's other stuff I'm missing

We'd tick off the top 4.

They always speak of "project". We got Carlo based on the "project" and aspirations.

Our aspirations are staying in the league while being the 2nd lowest spenders in the league. Not free flowing entertainment to please the park end da's

That 90% lost of managers soon shrinks. Just like transfer targets.

 

[kenada_blue]

Well 5% of managers earn more than we could offer, the other 5% arent interested in money or are playing the long game of getting money the slower successful way.

The other 90% would run over hot coals for 6m a year.

1	Diego Simeone	Argentina	Atletico Madrid	La Liga	30 million
2	Pep Guardiola	Spain	Manchester City	Premier League	19.5 million
3	Jurgen Klopp	Germany	Liverpool	Premier League	16 million
=4	Erik ten Hag	Netherlands	Manchester United	Premier League	10 million
=4	Thomas Tuchel	Germany	Bayern Munich	Bundesliga	10 million
6	Mikel Artera	Spain	Arsenal	Premier League	9.5 million
7	Massimiliano Allegri	Italy	Juventus	Serie A	8 million
8	Carlo Ancelotti	Italy	Real Madrid	La Liga	6.5 million
9	José Mourinho	Portugal	Roma	Serie A	6.2 million
10	Simone Inzaghi	Italy	Inter	Serie A	4.5 million

Ends up a tier though doesn't it. Looking at the availability of managers you'd say...

Lopetegui's, Galtier's, Potter, Naglesmann wouldn't based on footballing reasons.

Your Hasenhuttl's and Jesse Marsch's would in a heartbeat.