2023/24 Sean Dyche

[JLW]

Where should this squad be is the question I want people to answer

No lower than 13th and with a good manager just scraping in the top 10

 

[Magus]

No lower than 13th and with a good manager just scraping in the top 10

I think you are being generous to the squad by that estimation. I just don't think we have real premiership quality in most of our players, and it is still a Frankenstein monster of a squad put together by different managers. I genuinely think we can have no complaints if this team is relegated. A better manager might just help us to survive again, but it will take years before we can really start to look up.

 

[MrGrumpy]

We sacked this Dino yet?

 

[JLW]

I think you are being generous to the squad by that estimation. I just don't think we have real premiership quality in most of our players, and it is still a Frankenstein monster of a squad put together by different managers. I genuinely think we can have no complaints if this team is relegated. A better manager might just help us to survive again, but it will take years before we can really start to look up.

A better or good manager could make this squad finish above the below.

Fulham
Palace
Sheff utd
Burnley
Forest
Luton
Bournemouth
Wolves
Brentford

Throw West Ham into that who blow hot and cold and that's 10th.

 

[brian labone]

I think we do have enough quality for a 10-12 position and I think Aston Villa and Brentford proved that, we just need a decent manager to carry us forward.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Would anyone take a defeat at home to Bournemouth if it meant Dyche was sacked?

Just a question I`ve heard and I`m going to put my hard hat on and ask it here.

Interesting point, later in the season you probably wouldn`t but so early you would win more with a better manager.....

Don’t need to want it’s happening it’s going to happen. Bournemouth manager yet to win a game.. Enter Everton

 

[MrGrumpy]

A better or good manager could make this squad finish above the below.

Fulham
Palace
Sheff utd
Burnley
Forest
Luton
Bournemouth
Wolves
Brentford

Throw West Ham into that who blow hot and cold and that's 10th.

Totally agree

 

[MrGrumpy]

I`m not saying I do, I heard the question, quite thought/debate provoking...

He`ll probably lose anyway... I heard a stat by one of the YouTubers, reckons Dyche has only won 1 game where his team had MORE possession.

That to me tells you everything you need to know about this manager and why he is categorically not the man to take Everton forward. AND if he isn`t and the club think he isn`t what is the point in keeping him?

In days gone by, if you wanted to stay up you had a Dyche type survivalist, like Allardyce. Tough, gritty football and getting forward early but teams these days deal with that every day of the week. That survivalist type manager is gone, the only manager you need these days is one that gets results.

That was against Everton lol when he was Burnley manager

 

[MrGrumpy]

Neither do I so I’ve reported it for off topic.

Back to Dyche, what a terrible manager. I can’t believe he’s won 10 games in 58 and been relegated from the Premier League twice.

But but but his XG is 9999999999999999988

 

[efcfanwirral]

Would anyone take a defeat at home to Bournemouth if it meant Dyche was sacked?

Just a question I`ve heard and I`m going to put my hard hat on and ask it here.

Interesting point, later in the season you probably wouldn`t but so early you would win more with a better manager.....

No - the fixture list between now and the end of the year is horrible, so I think we'd end up in the same position (with him being sacked as soon as the new owners come in after a bad run), just 3 points worse off vs winning on Saturday and letting it play out as its probably going to anyway. Especially taking into account the team we're playing and how big it could be going so far ahead of them

 

[HowardsWay]

A better or good manager could make this squad finish above the below.

Fulham
Palace
Sheff utd
Burnley
Forest
Luton
Bournemouth
Wolves
Brentford

Throw West Ham into that who blow hot and cold and that's 10th.

Totally disagree. These players are inept and incapable of delivering good performances on a consistent basis. It's laughable that you think a better manager would have them playing better. We just lost to Luton... at home, FFS. That's as much on the players as it is the manager. It's time we accept what we are....equally as poo as Sheff Utd, Burnley, Luton, Bournemouth and far worse than Fulham, Palace, Forest, Wolves & Brentford. The league table is not lying. It hasn't been for the last three seasons. We had different managers then and still the same crap.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Of course it's his fault.
If a defender can't defend you coach him relentlessly until he can.
If a forward misses chance after chance you coach him until he feels more comfortable taking chances.
How many resources do we utilise on coaching and training?? What for?

He doesn’t coach strikers, Ben Mee came out the other day and said how Brentford really drill strikers where at Burnley it was more whatever

 

[Goat]

Where should this squad be is the question I want people to answer

7th, we should be 7th.

We should have beat Fulham, Wolves and Luton. 9 points extra puts us 7th.

That's where we should be currently.

 

[Magus]

A better or good manager could make this squad finish above the below.

Fulham
Palace
Sheff utd
Burnley
Forest
Luton
Bournemouth
Wolves
Brentford

Throw West Ham into that who blow hot and cold and that's 10th.

I would say the four highlighted are better teams with solid coaching behind them, and I am not sure we are any better than Burnley or Bournemouth with our current personnel. I remain hopeful that Harrison and Beto will improve our matchday squad, and that Branthwaite and Onana offer potential for improvement. but apart from Pickford and DCL I don't really rate any of our players as undisputed prem quality.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Nope.

You do know that when he loses on Saturday he becomes Everton WORSE ever manager