2023/24 Sean Dyche

[toffeeblue9]

Based on their underlying numbers, Dyche’s men should in theory be somewhere around Aston Villa and Brighton in fifth and sixth respectively, rather than close to the foot of the table again. Not only are they creating chances and sustaining pressure in the opposition half (see field tilt below), but they’ve largely been successful at limiting attempts on their own goal too.

That they are not emulating Villa and Brighton has more to do with their inability to take those chances and maybe a bit of bad luck.

 

[b-rad]

Based on their underlying numbers, Dyche’s men should in theory be somewhere around Aston Villa and Brighton in fifth and sixth respectively given their relatively easy set of fixtures so far, rather than close to the foot of the table again. Not only are they creating chances and sustaining pressure in the opposition half (see field tilt below), but they’ve largely been successful at limiting attempts on their own goal too.

That they are not emulating Villa and Brighton has more to do with their inability to take those chances and maybe a bit of bad luck.

Fixed it

 

[roy vernon]

I think we'll be lucky to get 4 points from the next 4 games we'll just have to hope the teams below us don't do too much better in that period.

 

[MikeH72]

Based on their underlying numbers, Dyche’s men should in theory be somewhere around Aston Villa and Brighton in fifth and sixth respectively, rather than close to the foot of the table again. Not only are they creating chances and sustaining pressure in the opposition half (see field tilt below), but they’ve largely been successful at limiting attempts on their own goal too.

That they are not emulating Villa and Brighton has more to do with their inability to take those chances and maybe a bit of bad luck.

And also a complete inability to defend set pieces which hasn’t been mentioned.

 

[DualityNSNO]

And also a complete inability to defend set pieces which hasn’t been mentioned.

Our open play defending is also mostly miss to be fair, but at least some heroics prevent massive accidents I guess.

 

[sd_1992]

Got to get his digs on the fans now given that we probably won’t win again until the new year.

 

[twoblue]

Are you a fully fledged Dychette?

Going to put my cards down and say we finish comfortably safe with Dyche this season.
Everyone would have taken that at the start of the season. But people change there expectations as the season progresses.
we have had some off games but on the on the whole, Everton this season beats Everton last season.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Going to put my cards down and say we finish comfortably safe with Dyche this season.
Everyone would have taken that at the start of the season. But people change there expectations as the season progresses.
we have had some off games but on the on the whole, Everton this season beats Everton last season.

Oh absolutely- I really hope we cobble together a run to see us safe. The last two seasons have been shockers, so stressful.

Our home form is the worry for me. Hopefully Saturday turns it around.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Our open play defending is also mostly miss to be fair, but at least some heroics prevent massive accidents I guess.

The stats don't totally support that tbf - we are 5th best in terms of shots conceded per game. Where we have fallen down a bit is the quality of shots conceded per game, where we only rank 14th - so the xG per shot we are giving up is relatively high

In terms of the stats that Athletic article references, the xGA per shot conceded at 14th is the one we come out worst on. Having said that, I can't speak for everyone, but if you'd offered me 14th before the season started I'd have been absolutely happy with that.

 

[Mikey O]

Going to put my cards down and say we finish comfortably safe with Dyche this season.
Everyone would have taken that at the start of the season. But people change there expectations as the season progresses.
we have had some off games but on the on the whole, Everton this season beats Everton last season.

Twoblue, I think you're spot on with that last comment; plus Leicester and Leeds were a lot stronger than those that have come up so I agree we'll stay up this season.

 

[COYBL25]

And also a complete inability to defend set pieces which hasn’t been mentioned.

And seemingly no attempt to rectify it either.

Martinez had the excuse that he was mad.

For a manager that built his reputation on solid defences, he seems to have a massive blind spot when it comes to corners.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Twoblue, I think you're spot on with that last comment; plus Leicester and Leeds were a lot stronger than those that have come up so I agree we'll stay up this season.

That's broadly where I'm at. What I'm watching and the stats say to me that we are better than we were last season and we are also fortunate that there are some really poor sides in the division this year - Luton (yes, I know), Sheff Utd, Burnley and probably Bournemouth should all finish below us.

I wouldn't be minded to even have a conversation about Dyche's job unless we were in the bottom 3 at Christmas or at any point after that.

 

[MikeH72]

The stats don't totally support that tbf - we are 5th best in terms of shots conceded per game. Where we have fallen down a bit is the quality of shots conceded per game, where we only rank 14th - so the xG per shot we are giving up is relatively high

In terms of the stats that Athletic article references, the xGA per shot conceded at 14th is the one we come out worst on. Having said that, I can't speak for everyone, but if you'd offered me 14th before the season started I'd have been absolutely happy with that.

We’ve also had the easiest fixtures in the entire league so far which probably contributes heavily to teams not getting many shots off against us. I’ll be interested to see where our xG, xGA, XXXmilfs=mc2 lands after we’ve played some good teams.

 

[DualityNSNO]

The stats don't totally support that tbf - we are 5th best in terms of shots conceded per game. Where we have fallen down a bit is the quality of shots conceded per game, where we only rank 14th - so the xG per shot we are giving up is relatively high

In terms of the stats that Athletic article references, the xGA per shot conceded at 14th is the one we come out worst on. Having said that, I can't speak for everyone, but if you'd offered me 14th before the season started I'd have been absolutely happy with that.

Yeah fair enough.

Counterpoint:

Football is a results business, not an xG business.

 

[JLW]

Going to put my cards down and say we finish comfortably safe with Dyche this season.
Everyone would have taken that at the start of the season. But people change there expectations as the season progresses.
we have had some off games but on the on the whole, Everton this season beats Everton last season.

I would say and have done since the start of the season that we will be ok based on how weak the bottom half of the league is this year.

Your last comment i agree with because we have a stronger squad but as it stands we are on course for another battle, this is why i dont get the love in for Dyche.

Less than a point a game so far with the easiest set of fixtures you could of had.
We haven't won a game we shouldn't of in the league and weve lost games we should be winning.