2023/24 Sean Dyche

[pfim]

Two years with a negative xGD. No wonder I drink so much, I'll have to tell the missus.

 

[Marius57]

At least weve solved the conundrum of why he hates Patterson so much....along with Dave.

We knew that a good year or so ago. Made it very obvious he is a Celtic fan by the fact he always calls Rangers “Sevco” when pretty much anyone else in the world would simply call them Rangers.

 

[Saint Domingo]

On a shoestring, Dyche has improved this team. They look like they have a plan and seem hungry to win every game. Much rather Dyche than another chancer who talks a good game like Lampard.

Lampard kept us up and then had a very poor following season. He had a banner with his face on in the gwladys street though and had his name chanted most games.

Dyche kept us up (probably under more difficult circumstances with a lesser squad minus Richarlison Gordon) and has had a much better trajectory to his second season. Yet there’s barely a chant about him. Shows everything wrong with perceptions in football. It was great support that we backed Lampard until it was clear he wasn’t up to the job but for some reason Dyche almost has to prove he’s brilliant to be given any sort of support whatsoever? Complete double standard.

 

[Zatara]

We knew that a good year or so ago. Made it very obvious he is a Celtic fan by the fact he always calls Rangers “Sevco” when pretty much anyone else in the world would simply call them Rangers.

There I was thinking they were all Evertonians who were seeing things on the pitch mere mortals like us could not comprehend.

But alas, Celtic fans slating the right back playing in front of their injured Irish hero.

Hopefully Sean Dyche sees sense soon and fixes the right back issue.

 

[Zatara]

Lampard kept us up and then had a very poor following season. He had a banner with his face on in the gwladys street though and had his name chanted most games.

Dyche kept us up (probably under more difficult circumstances with a lesser squad minus Richarlison Gordon) and has had a much better trajectory to his second season. Yet there’s barely a chant about him. Shows everything wrong with perceptions in football. It was great support that we backed Lampard until it was clear he wasn’t up to the job but for some reason Dyche almost has to prove he’s brilliant to be given any sort of support whatsoever? Complete double standard.

Under Lampard we could hope and dream that a team built by and played in his style would be another Arteta situation.

With Dyche its similar to Moyes and weve seen it before.

Once Dyche and Thelwell remould the team into something able to play a different way...then he will get the plaudits.

Having Doucoure, Young and Harrison for example isnt going to get hearts pulsating.

 

[Connor]

 

[Goodisongang]

so it actually works out at 74 not 73, their numbers not mine got an issue raise it with them mate. It probably comes down to what is classed as a 'long ball' tbh

I wouldn't have been suprised if this was our total passes per game and not "long" passes

 

[Llyrap]

Under Lampard we could hope and dream that a team built by and played in his style would be another Arteta situation.

With Dyche its similar to Moyes and weve seen it before.

Once Dyche and Thelwell remould the team into something able to play a different way...then he will get the plaudits.

Having Doucoure, Young and Harrison for example isnt going to get hearts pulsating.

We have been here before. Even under Koeman I remember a sticky patch when our only tactic appeared to be hoofing it up to Lukaku.
I can understand doing it to get a run of results and some confidence.

The irony is that at times we have done it poorly and attracted pressure on ourselves. If it's a positive action fine but against Brighton second half when we were under pressure, we were simply inviting them on to us. The majority of our recent goals have not come from hoofball.

If nobody's going for the second balls what's the point. It's alright going direct but our run of fixtures in December means that we need an outlet and hoofing it up just means that it'll come back at us and we'll be penned in our own 18 yard box.

 

[Zatara]

We have been here before. Even under Koeman I remember a sticky patch when our only tactic appeared to be hoofing it up to Lukaku.
I can understand doing it to get a run of results and some confidence.

The irony is that at times we have done it poorly and attracted pressure on ourselves. If it's a positive action fine but against Brighton second half when we were under pressure, we were simply inviting them on to us. The majority of our recent goals have not come from hoofball.

If nobody's going for the second balls what's the point. It's alright going direct but our run of fixtures in December means that we need an outlet and hoofing it up just means that it'll come back at us and we'll be penned in our own 18 yard box.

Koeman was always a poor manager.

I think our games against 'harder' or better placed teams will work in our favour as were under less pressure and can play to our strengths on the counter.

 

[uglykidjoe1982]

No, the point I’ve been trying to make is, if possible, let’s try and make life easier for ourselves and harder for the opposition. So if we go 1 up, let’s not kick the ball long at every opportunity and give away cheap possession. Let’s try hold onto it for a bit. Make the opposition work for the possession they get and help slow the game down a little and try to take the momentum out of the opposition waves of attack. That doesn’t mean “let’s play like Man City”.
Let’s be a bit cleverer when it comes to “Game Management”.

Trying to keep the ball is what did for Lampard. The players we have will ALWAYS make a catastrophic mistake eventually. Okay, there is more talent in the team than 12 months ago and Keane was a one-man c—k up machine, but we’re still not great and trying to keep the ball is still tempting fate, in my view.

 

[Gilbert..]

Trying to keep the ball is what did for Lampard. The players we have will ALWAYS make a catastrophic mistake eventually. Okay, there is more talent in the team than 12 months ago and Keane was a one-man c—k up machine, but we’re still not great and trying to keep the ball is still tempting fate, in my view.

Very. Wether peoples opinion on dyche is that he is very basic or very smart in knowing the capabilities of what he has to work with its at least being acknowledged. Doucoure is benefiting a lot from this.

 

[Blue_Eagle]

Lampard kept us up and then had a very poor following season. He had a banner with his face on in the gwladys street though and had his name chanted most games.

Dyche kept us up (probably under more difficult circumstances with a lesser squad minus Richarlison Gordon) and has had a much better trajectory to his second season. Yet there’s barely a chant about him. Shows everything wrong with perceptions in football. It was great support that we backed Lampard until it was clear he wasn’t up to the job but for some reason Dyche almost has to prove he’s brilliant to be given any sort of support whatsoever? Complete double standard.

The only reason you believe Lampard had better support was because of his super frank chant.

The only reason that was sung was because it already existed.

Also, Dyche isn't as likeable.

Gravy.

 

[Baggzio]

Lampard kept us up and then had a very poor following season. He had a banner with his face on in the gwladys street though and had his name chanted most games.

Dyche kept us up (probably under more difficult circumstances with a lesser squad minus Richarlison Gordon) and has had a much better trajectory to his second season. Yet there’s barely a chant about him. Shows everything wrong with perceptions in football. It was great support that we backed Lampard until it was clear he wasn’t up to the job but for some reason Dyche almost has to prove he’s brilliant to be given any sort of support whatsoever? Complete double standard.

Genuinely down to nothing more than reputation. Lampard is a household name that is attractive for some reason, yet plays god awful football and hasn’t a clue which has been proven multiple times now. Dyche made his name with a poor Burnley side and gets labelled a “Brexit-ball” manager despite having us playing some good stuff at times when we need to. Dyche is genuinely suffering from being a successful Burnley manager for about a decade and Lampard is benefiting from being a not awful Chelsea manager for 9 months. It’s mad.

I talk positively about Dyche on here a lot, so much so that you’d think I love him and think he’s great, the thing is I don’t. I wish we could be a better team and squad but we are where we deserve to be and Dyche, for where we are, is a fantastic manager. I have no idea why so many people are against him, I’d get it from non-Evertonians but I’m like a broken record saying this, how can anyone watch this team every week and not see how much better we are? It’s insane to me honestly.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Genuinely down to nothing more than reputation. Lampard is a household name that is attractive for some reason, yet plays god awful football and hasn’t a clue which has been proven multiple times now. Dyche made his name with a poor Burnley side and gets labelled a “Brexit-ball” manager despite having us playing some good stuff at times when we need to. Dyche is genuinely suffering from being a successful Burnley manager for about a decade and Lampard is benefiting from being a not awful Chelsea manager for 9 months. It’s mad.

I talk positively about Dyche on here a lot, so much so that you’d think I love him and think he’s great, the thing is I don’t. I wish we could be a better team and squad but we are where we deserve to be and Dyche, for where we are, is a fantastic manager. I have no idea why so many people are against him, I’d get it from non-Evertonians but I’m like a broken record saying this, how can anyone watch this team every week and not see how much better we are? It’s insane to me honestly.

I don't see why people should be forced to like him though. Tbh I think he is a bang ordinary manager with a very obvious ceiling level to his managerial abilities (Id like him to prove me wrong) However at the moment he has got a run of form together and fair play to him, long may it continue. Id like to see if Dele was fit if/how he would use him, Dele is a very different sort of player to anything Dyche has had before and could totally change the team if fit.

 

[Baggzio]

I don't see why people should be forced to like him though. Tbh I think he is a bang ordinary manager with a very obvious ceiling level to his managerial abilities (Id like him to prove me wrong) However at the moment he has got a run of form together and fair play to him, long may it continue. Id like to see if Dele was fit if/how he would use him, Dele is a very different sort of player to anything Dyche has had before and could totally change the team if fit.

Not saying anyone should be forced to like him. In an ideal world Everton would be a much better side and he’d never be our manager in a million years but we’re not in an ideal world and he’s doing incredibly well with the poor team that we have all while the club is in utter turmoil.

Isn’t Defour the player that people point to and show that Dyche can actually use players with quality, think he was brought in as Burnley’s creativity the year they got Europe and he did fairly well with him. Personally I think having Dyche as our manager now will do wonders for the young lads like Patterson, Onana, Branthwaite and Garner, as well as others, to get a bit of fight and determination into their play. The quality will come later but too often at Everton over the last few years we’ve had players who on paper had the ability but you could tell didn’t have the mental attributes to be top players.

Even if we don’t keep any of those we’ll be able to sell them for higher fees after Dyche manages them as they’ll be overall better players for having him as a manager.