I mean all of Europe exists, we don't have to limit ourselves to just the PL - if they're good enough they're good enough. I know every transition is a long winded one but what exactly will Dyche transform us into? Stability is his ceiling imho, he's too stubborn to allow himself to progress because he's stuck in his ways and nothing else.
I don't want us to invest in Dyche (or let Dyche spend money) as he has no eyes to the future - we'll get more Ashley Youngs than Jarrod Branthwaites, because it's his MO, it's how he works and has always worked. Surprised you think otherwise - he had money several times at Burnley and spent it on Wout Weghorsts and the likes hilariously. Before "But it's Burnley" - well, we're Everton, we might big ourselves up and all that but we're not massive and haven't been for decades now, so it's the same deal and this transition
has to have a buy-to-sell part. Based on team names and reputation - players will currently go to your Aston Villas, Tottenhams and probably even "lesser" teams instead of us, on a whim, like Danjuma. Especially if they're young - why would you come here? To follow the path to first team football of Patterson, Chermiti, Dobbin?
He should live his contract out at best and leave. We can't afford sacking him right now anyway. There aren't "few managers" - that's naive. He's not a miracle worker or some kind of savant manager, he's Sean Dyche, the most "proven quality" manager in England. Don't forget this next time we go "oh wow where did team X pull this guy from" when there's the next big name in management at a smaller team - if you give a decent working environment to a manager it will work, but we're stuck in old ways. German teams/managers do it properly for this - take a smaller team to the mid level of the Bundesliga, prove that you can achieve that consistently while building on it in cups/tournaments/etc., prove your methods work, get promoted to a bigger team - Klopp, Flick, Tedesco, Tuchel, Rose off the top of my head were given chances with teams much bigger and with different expectations than their own when they achieved competitive stability and found success. Yet, we have "The one and only Sean Dyche" as an answer. Apparently there's teams that are with players that won't get into our first team but other managers have them playing for more points and better football where they at least try to win, which I've been told is illogical for us to want or expect.
I was a fan of Moyes - for a long time he did almost the impossible because of Fat Good Times Man, but even he hit his ceiling - we'd be perenially fighting to be 7th at best with him and he left when he should have (not how he should have, imo, but whatever) but now? 12 years on and people want him back, so he can reach the same ceiling again? Or do we just only regurgitate Prem managers because we're so massive and such a lucrative team to manage?
Plus, Moyes was the same dinosaur as Dyche frustratingly - we had decent young players who were never given a chance and then we'd be shocked when they're decent in the positions we need. He played Rooney the same way Dyche plays anyone not named Branthwaite (as he has no choice there) currently in his first season - barely, even though he was getting wins. You know what you get with him - slightly better football than Dyche. I wrote a longer post on why he's a bad idea to re-hire in a different thread, don't remember where tho tbh, but the gist is "enough sentimental hires".
Your mate is right, and even then we got there first and got barely through due to mismanagement by the man himself. He improved marginally on Lampard's results, not like we were sent flying somehow? We were in a fantastic position (as we are now) to capitalise and be out of sight of relegation, but we didn't do it as he had no idea. It all came down to the last game exactly because of mismanagement in opportune moments - he had to stray slightly from what he knew and absolutely ballsed it up for several games - and that's why his ceiling is fighting for relegation and why he sets up the way he does - it's what he knows.