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2024/25 Sean Dyche

I agree, Lampard needed to go then.

If the next 4 games go as expected (and the Liverpool game had as well which is a stroke of luck for that it got postponed), we could genuinely be looking at 14 points from 19 games.

Considering Lampard got sacked on 15 from 20, he is hardly pulling up trees this season.
I think Lampard needed to go the week we were hammered 7-0 on aggregate by Bournemouth. If I recall correctly he fielded a really weak team in the Caribao on the basis we could go full strangers in the PL game and we still got our arses handed to us
 
So dyches first season, did the fans not keep us up then as well? As I’m fairly sure I remember the same sort of fan support etc that season as well.

Why does Dyche get the credit but not Lampard?
Let's be honest. The angry mob which is this thread has lost all grip on a normal discussion, look at the last pages, people suggest that maybe in the future Dyche might be looked at in a bit more of a better light, yet it's instantly ripped a part by an angry fanbase at the mere mention of such a thing happening. It's all very silly and toxic.
 
I won’t be thankful to him for leaving us in a position where we will require a minor miracle of other teams being more incompetent than us to save us personally, but each to their own.

I mean, pretty much every team that has survived a relegation scare has done so because there was 3 worse teams. It's a weak argument that tbh mate.

Expecting Wolves, Ipswich, Southampton and Leicester to be worse than us is hardly hoping for a "minor miracle". Even if it is hoping for a minor miracle, then that's unquestionably an improvement on "beyond a miracle", no?
 
I mean, pretty much every team that has survived a relegation scare has done so because there was 3 worse teams. It's a weak argument that tbh mate.

Expecting Wolves, Ipswich, Southampton and Leicester to be worse than us is hardly hoping for a "minor miracle". Even if it is hoping for a minor miracle, then that's unquestionably an improvement on "beyond a miracle", no?

That Leicester City squad getting 34 points and yet still being a Nick Pope save away from staying up at our expense was pretty much beyond a miracle, I’ll give you that.
 

Let's be honest. The angry mob which is this thread has lost all grip on a normal discussion, look at the last pages, people suggest that maybe in the future Dyche might be looked at in a bit more of a better light, yet it's instantly ripped a part by an angry fanbase at the mere mention of such a thing happening. It's all very silly and toxic.
No one with common sense will look back at Dyche’s tenure and think, "It wasn’t that bad." They’ll acknowledge he did a decent job under the circumstances, but the football was dreadful. That’s very different from looking back fondly, which you admitted you somewhat would.
I think I will somewhat, yes. Anybody who kept us up whilst the world was falling beneath us would get my respect overall.
 
Let's be honest. The angry mob which is this thread has lost all grip on a normal discussion, look at the last pages, people suggest that maybe in the future Dyche might be looked at in a bit more of a better light, yet it's instantly ripped a part by an angry fanbase at the mere mention of such a thing happening. It's all very silly and toxic.
Ignore the question then.

Apologies if my mere asking of questions is toxic or angry to you.
 
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I think Lampard needed to go the week we were hammered 7-0 on aggregate by Bournemouth. If I recall correctly he fielded a really weak team in the Caribao on the basis we could go full strangers in the PL game and we still got our arses handed to us
Agreed. Same way Benitez needed to go earlier than he did. Which is why I said after 6 months of Dyche that we should be saying thanks but off you go and learning from mistakes. But alas, here we are again.
 

No one with common sense will look back at Dyche’s tenure and think, "It wasn’t that bad." They’ll acknowledge he did a decent job under the circumstances, but the football was dreadful. That’s very different from looking back fondly, which you admitted you somewhat would.
It wasn't about whether the football was good it was about surviving, majority of blues I know were happy to just do that and they were right. It didn't matter how we survived just that we did until new ownership and stadium.
 
That Leicester City squad getting 34 points and yet still being a Nick Pope save away from staying up at our expense was pretty much beyond a miracle, I’ll give you that.

So that was the only big moment in the whole season was it?

And that's unquestionably more on Lampard anyway. You're the first one to point out how Mike Jackson improved the PPG at Burnley, but they still got relegated. You say that unquestionably makes it Dyche's fault they were relegated. Fair enough. Lampard took 15 points from 20 games that season; Dyche took 21 points from 18 games, so surely it's equally unquestionable that it's on Frank that we ended up going in to a last day survival situation?
 
So that was the only big moment in the whole season was it?

And that's unquestionably more on Lampard anyway. You're the first one to point out how Mike Jackson improved the PPG at Burnley, but they still got relegated. You say that unquestionably makes it Dyche's fault they were relegated. Fair enough. Lampard took 15 points from 20 games that season; Dyche took 21 points from 18 games, so surely it's equally unquestionable that it's on Frank that we ended up going in to a last day survival situation?

I was simply joking with that comment about the fans and Lampard to be honest mate. Yes I believe Lampard deserved to be sacked and Sean Dyche also deserves to be sacked. Both are crap managers.
 

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