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2024/25 Sean Dyche

Furry muff mate, tbf I rarely if ever watch press conferences or interviews.

I don't watch press conferences, only ever watch post match.

After Bournemouth I shared my view that he pointed the finger too much, and was too keen to revisit/keep talking about what was before Dyche.

I can tolerate % football. Pragmatic football. Whatever you want to call it.

I can tolerate Dyche and the football I think best gets a squad of relegation fodder over the line to Bramley Moore with sensible ownership a Premier League team.

Dyches individual managerial achievements as Everton manager is only beaten by Moyes finishing 4th in our PL era, Imo.

But when you're conceding 10 in 3, and pissing away a 2-0 win from 87 minutes...

Suddenly, you're looking at Dyche thinking hang on, if you're not making us hard to beat. What's the point?

If you're openly telling us the players aren't listening to your instruction. If you're still rubbing your snot around your face complaining about what was before you - then what is the point of you being here?

Lampard was bad for cry arsing about before him and I called him out on it, so I'm doing the same with Dyche.

Whether he's right or wrong - now isn't the time for self preservation.

He let us down yesterday. His subs and his post match deflection. Tim shouldn't be be on the pitch after 60 mins. NDiaye occupied more players than any other we had our there - him over Doucoure is massive. He said he could smell the collapse - but he didn't do one thing to change it.

Still, 90% of that collapse was on players yesterday. Don't get me started on Mykolenko. The mentality wimps. A League Two team shouldn't be conceding 3 goals from 87 minutes to Bournemouth. It's a PL record for a reason.

Yesterday was huge game for us all considered and they've pissed it away. Dyche pointed the finger at the players saying nobody wanted to take ownership, and in doing so he's done the same.


^ We need a manager to take accountability. Take the pressure off. I think if a manager knows he's waiting to be sacked, he's going to be less inclined to do so.

A prospective owner undermining him isn't going to help Everton.
 
Dyche's stock is still high based on last season. He done a decent job last year against the odds, the 4th best defence, the points gained etc. They are factual.
People (us lot) can, and do argue, about the way that was obtained, style of play, Manager X would have done better etc etc. If he gets us to mid table again, maybe even has half a cup run, it puts him in good stead for his next job. He won't want to spoil that by doing a poor job and being sacked.
I think Dyche must know that his best hope of ever advancing his career from "relegation battle specialist" is to kick on with Everton. To do that he needs to keep his job first and foremost, and he likely needs to impress a new owner with a decent, more flexible style of play to go with good results. There were signs against Bournemouth that he and the team are capable of that, no matter how it turned out.

If he makes it to next year with us then he can try to show more and really kick on, hopefully with new ownership, a new stadium and some better players. That's likely the best opportunity Dyche will get to show he can mould together a genuinely good side with aspirations beyond surviving. If he fails to do so, or is let go in the meantime, his next job will be back in the same old relegation pigeonhole.

So I do think that rather than mail it in and await the sack or his contract expiring he will surely take motivation to show what he can do for the good of his career, here or otherwise.
 

Bit of a weird stance from him if he did.

In his best interests to over perform

It's reality though isn't it?

In your job, if you know you're going to be sacked this year no matter what you do - are you giving 100% or are you going to self preserve by tidying up your CV, spending time looking for another job?

If you had 20+ direct line reports who all knew you weren't going to be around much longer, are they going to really care/perform as they usually would?

Sure, it helps him loads if he does really well with us this season - and I'm not saying Dyche will down tools but we don't want a manager in a relegation scrap to be self preservation - waffling on about what was 19 months ago when we've just broke a record for losing a match.

The club needs certainty at every level ASAP - potential owners wading in before being owner isn't ideal.
 
If that thing about the extra year’s salary if he’s sacked is true, then he will actually earn more if he gets sacked than if he sees the season out. I’ll be watching his decisions with great interest over the next few weeks.
That supposed clause only makes sense if he is sacked in year 1 or 2 of a 3 year contract to ensure that he gets he same level of salary as if his contract ran to its end point.
Such a clause in year 3 of a 3 year contract is nonsensical, but then again this is Everton we are talking about.
 
I don't watch press conferences, only ever watch post match.

After Bournemouth I shared my view that he pointed the finger too much, and was too keen to revisit/keep talking about what was before Dyche.




^ We need a manager to take accountability. Take the pressure off. I think if a manager knows he's waiting to be sacked, he's going to be less inclined to do so.

A prospective owner undermining him isn't going to help Everton.

Don't think it changes anything mate really, unless he's stupid he knows without being told a new owner will replace him quickly.

Could counter argue even that free from worrying about staying in the job he'll relax and not be as 'dyche' tactically.
 
It's reality though isn't it?

In your job, if you know you're going to be sacked this year no matter what you do - are you giving 100% or are you going to self preserve by tidying up your CV, spending time looking for another job?

If you had 20+ direct line reports who all knew you weren't going to be around much longer, are they going to really care/perform as they usually would?

Sure, it helps him loads if he does really well with us this season - and I'm not saying Dyche will down tools but we don't want a manager in a relegation scrap to be self preservation - waffling on about what was 19 months ago when we've just broke a record for losing a match.

The club needs certainty at every level ASAP - potential owners wading in before being owner isn't ideal.

Conversely Danny, can be seen in a different light.

Dyche knows he's gone under a new owner, new owner prior to taking over comes out and says, can he change - giving an opportunity if Dyche sees it as such to audition for the next few months to actually be kept on in the job - if he can show he can adapt.

Be funny if Saturday Dyche lines up with O'Brien and Lindstrom starting like.
 
Conversely Danny, can be seen in a different light.

Dyche knows he's gone under a new owner, new owner prior to taking over comes out and says, can he change - giving an opportunity if Dyche sees it as such to audition for the next few months to actually be kept on in the job - if he can show he can adapt.

Be funny if Saturday Dyche lines up with O'Brien and Lindstrom starting like.

Just further demonstrates OBrien was forced on Dyche to me.

Do we want another meddling owner who decides who we sign or who should play?
 

It's reality though isn't it?

In your job, if you know you're going to be sacked this year no matter what you do - are you giving 100% or are you going to self preserve by tidying up your CV, spending time looking for another job?

If you had 20+ direct line reports who all knew you weren't going to be around much longer, are they going to really care/perform as they usually would?

Sure, it helps him loads if he does really well with us this season - and I'm not saying Dyche will down tools but we don't want a manager in a relegation scrap to be self preservation - waffling on about what was 19 months ago when we've just broke a record for losing a match.

The club needs certainty at every level ASAP - potential owners wading in before being owner isn't ideal.

Hes not getting "sacked" though, he's completing his contract IE the job - which, let's be honest, was always to keep us in the league and operate on a budget. Football is secondary (which is what The Tex alluded too).

If another company looks at your CV and spots the last year was a wobble, not seeing it through to the max... there'll be a a doubt to when it comes to length of contract and pay. Think everyone at Bramley Moore goes "12 months left lads, let's not bother"

Then there's the name for himself that he'll want to prove differently because he'll turn into that Big Sam-like figure with clubs bringing him in to "do a job".

I also don't believe he thinks that far ahead
 
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Why, he’s his own brand. He’s a “this is what you get” manager. He’ll know what jobs he’ll get offered when he leaves here, like Fat Sam teams will turn to him in desperation regardless of results

Well it's what you'd think he'd want to get away from. Which is difficult in at our club in this situation.

End of the day, when the season finishes he'll have been the longest serving manager since Martinez and the only manager to keep a side in the top flight after an 8 point deduction (I believe).
 
Just further demonstrates OBrien was forced on Dyche to me.

Do we want another meddling owner who decides who we sign or who should play?

Heard that Thelwell wanted O'Brien mate, so in the regards of the DoF wanting him but the manager not then I'd be fine with the future owner backing the DoF, especially if the manager was neithers choice and won't be there long term.

Textor isnt in the situation to for e anything yet, which means Thelwell wanted O'Brien and likely Textor made the deal possible (did he suggest the player to Thelwell - maybe, but Thelwell said yes if he did meaning he wanted him)
 

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