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2024/25 Sean Dyche

blueboy72 said:
Lampard did a good job to keep us up after Rafael, but was rightfully sacked after a poor run of form the following season. I couldn’t care less what happened last season, it all about this season. And if results don’t improve quickly, then he should also be sacked
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You would if we’d gone down though wouldn’t you?

You’ve posted that the club might now be attractive to a new manager and DOF because the wage bill is down, there’s value in the squad that could be sold, those years over overspending have passed through the PS&R regs, and we’ll be in a new stadium.

If we’d gone down in 22/23 there’s none of that. None. So maybe you should care about what’s happened in previous seasons.

We stay up this season and arrive at the stadium and new owner as a PL team and its job done for Dyche as per the contract we gave him. And before anyone hysterically bleats, mere survival is not my expectation or aspiration, I’m not building anyone a statue for it, it’s the reality of where we were in January 23 when we hired Dyche and what the job we needed from him was. Keep us up that season, stabilise the club, get us through PS&R, see us into the new stadium. It’s almost job done.
 
Saint Domingo said:
You would if we’d gone down though wouldn’t you?

You’ve posted that the club might now be attractive to a new manager and DOF because the wage bill is down, there’s value in the squad that could be sold, those years over overspending have passed through the PS&R regs, and we’ll be in a new stadium.

If we’d gone down in 22/23 there’s none of that. None. So maybe you should care about what’s happened in previous seasons.

We stay up this season and arrive at the stadium and new owner as a PL team and its job done for Dyche as per the contract we gave him. And before anyone hysterically bleats, mere survival is not my expectation or aspiration, I’m not building anyone a statue for it, it’s the reality of where we were in January 23 when we hired Dyche and what the job we needed from him was. Keep us up that season, stabilise the club, get us through PS&R, see us into the new stadium. It’s almost job done.
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Yes on balance I agree.

Despite the fact that the football has been terrible and he will have been paid circa £12.5 million if he gets us to BMD still in the PL with the accounts looking a bit better he will have done a decent job and the pain will have been worth it.
 

Thomasc said:
We will be lucky to get 40 IMO this season

He did well last year
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We hear this every year. This squad is easily capable of getting over 40 points, it’s not great but neither is the rest of the league. I don’t buy into the idea that the promoted teams are better than last season’s.

I’m not letting Dyche gaslight me into thinking 17th and 38 points would be a monumental achievement.
 
jazzy said:
Yes on balance I agree.

Despite the fact that the football has been terrible and he will have been paid circa £12.5 million if he gets us to BMD still in the PL with the accounts looking a bit better he will have done a decent job and the pain will have been worth it.
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The end of the season is the parting of ways (as long as we don’t look like getting relegated before)

Before he came in I argued for a long time that we needed stability in a manager, any manager, just to get rid of the downing tools culture amongst the squad, and allow us to move out high earners, bad eggs etc.

If we can get to the end of the season in mid table then the club will have benefitted hugely from keeping a manager longer than 18 months.

The correct extension talk for me is irrelevant. Textor will pick his new man regardless. The club may or may not extend by a year just to drown out any chatter for this season and de risk the squad getting their deck chairs out, but it more than likely ends this summer.

I’ll say thanks for a good job under difficult circumstances (especially 22/23) and for putting the club on good footing at a time when it was in dire straits. If people hate the bloke because he rubs his face in press conferences too much for their liking then so be it, it doesn’t change the reality of the job he’s done.
 
MikeH72 said:
We hear this every year. This squad is easily capable of getting over 40 points, it’s not great but neither is the rest of the league. I don’t buy into the idea that the promoted teams are better than last season’s.

I’m not letting Dyche gaslight me into thinking 17th and 38 points would be a monumental achievement.
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5 wins in 9 months though

#Progress
 
Saint Domingo said:
You would if we’d gone down though wouldn’t you?

You’ve posted that the club might now be attractive to a new manager and DOF because the wage bill is down, there’s value in the squad that could be sold, those years over overspending have passed through the PS&R regs, and we’ll be in a new stadium.

If we’d gone down in 22/23 there’s none of that. None. So maybe you should care about what’s happened in previous seasons.

We stay up this season and arrive at the stadium and new owner as a PL team and its job done for Dyche as per the contract we gave him. And before anyone hysterically bleats, mere survival is not my expectation or aspiration, I’m not building anyone a statue for it, it’s the reality of where we were in January 23 when we hired Dyche and what the job we needed from him was. Keep us up that season, stabilise the club, get us through PS&R, see us into the new stadium. It’s almost job done.
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I cared about them seasons when we were in them, couldn’t care less now. Only seasons you look back on with any fondness is when we had success or had good teams near the top of the table.

Had we gone down under dyche or Lampard it is what it is, they would have been sacked and we would have had a re-set,
But I don’t think it would have been the disaster some seem to think, like
It would be the end of the club and we’d do a Sunderland, maybe it’s the dyche fan boys saying that, as it helps there argument for
Keeping him,
because survival to them is the holy grail

Villa went down for 3 years,
Probably lost over 200mil in revenue, but look at them now,
Sold grealish and got good people in and a brilliant manager. And it’s not quite job done have you looked at the table ? Dyche is on borrowed time and he knows it, avoiding the question in yesterday press conference. He won’t see this season out, I will be surprised if he here at Christmas
 

GrandOldSte117 said:
Can someone inform me if they expected MORE than 48 pts last season?
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Nope, but I expect us to be in that region again. 45 points at least is realistic.

It's pretty hard to say there are many teams on a similar level this season.

Us, Palace, Fulham, Bournemouth even Forest now is in this group. Not sure about Wolves and Brentford.

Brighton is ahead. Only see Southampton and Ipswich as worse and maybe Leicester.
 

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