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Semifinals: Croatia vs England

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Here, here, it was nice to get behind a team, will them to victory, to watch a cracking World Cup and enjoy football, just football, the little guys winning, Croatia are in a World Cup final, nobody can say they dont deserve it.

The last 3 weeks has been what the footy is all about, if nothing else it gave us all something to do while we wait for Everton to rain on our weekends again.

TBH I don't know that I'm quite ready to be kicked in the dinger every weekend again
 


Sorry missed this.

Withers didn't complicate his songwriting. He just put it out there...one of the reasons for his success. As I have already said Use Me is my fav...musically and lyrically...thought he hit it on both. Lean on Me is a close second...the message is so powerful and simple in the lyrics.

Ain't No Sunshine edges Grandma's Hands for me as well.
 

An important read for England fans, it's actually quite a good read from a very good journo. So easy to get swept up in a tide of empty euphoria



LOL. This is the bitterest article I've read in ages. So we're not allowed to enjoy riding our luck to the semi finals without being "deluded"? I think we all knew we're not a top international side.

I don't see the delusion in feeling optimistic about beating Croatia. I mean I wasn't personally and they're man for man a better side but on the day anything can happen and we weren't THAT far off in the end.

Laughably bitter.
 
Yes the midfield playmaker is desperately needed to orchestrate the parts and bring together the defence and attack, to complete the system he's trying to play.

Not having one was beyond his control and it meant we reverted to type in the second half against Croatia, we lost our way without possession, we lost our grip and were forced back.

It is the crucial link that can make us truly competitive and operating without one is a tough ask, whoever the coach is and whatever tactics are employed.

Coaching can help teams not fall back into bad habits but to finish the jigsaw that piece is needed, an unconnected partially complete plan is the best he could hope for with luck providing the rest.

The defence and attack weren't as joined as they should be and it was the latter starved of possession in the second half that found the limits to it's effectiveness.

Without such a lynchpin England needed to lose to Belgium, and it was essentially this loss which gave them the opportunity to surprise us all and advance beyond any reasonable pre tournament expectations, even with all their deficiencies and faults that loss and the way the draw infolded gave them that opportunity.

The team isn't ready, unfortunately this golden chance came too early in their development, that Modric or Pirlo doesn't exist yet, but the formula is there and the plan to make us really competitive is in place.

Southgate and his team excelled and went almost further than most thought possible, they used their luck and it was a real step forward.
 
LOL. This is the bitterest article I've read in ages. So we're not allowed to enjoy riding our luck to the semi finals without being "deluded"? I think we all knew we're not a top international side.
I don't see the delusion in feeling optimistic about beating Croatia. I mean I wasn't personally and they're man for man a better side but on the day anything can happen and we weren't THAT far off in the end.

Laughably bitter.
I suspect that there is a bit of the green eyed monster in evidence. US and Irish posters trying to score points when their teams did not get there. Let them enjoy themselves if it makes them happy.
 
An important read for England fans, it's actually quite a good read from a very good journo. So easy to get swept up in a tide of empty euphoria



It's pretty crucial that the author was publicly just as critical of the optimism and certain of england's eventual failure and "delusion" while England were still in the tournament.

If he wasn't, I'd say this article is pretty well worthless as it seems to be about patting himself on the back for being a more rational and less emotional thinker than everyone else, which of course is very easy to do after the fact and also - if this is the first time he's expressed these views - a bit cowardly.

England lost that game in large part in the middle of the park due to the excellence of Luka Modric. This was seen as a distinct possibility by pretty much every England fan with a rudimentary understanding of the game. It came as a surprise to precisely no one. I'm not sure this fella gets out much.
 
It's pretty crucial that the author was publicly just as critical of the optimism and certain of england's eventual failure and "delusion" while England were still in the tournament.

If he wasn't, I'd say this article is pretty well worthless as it seems to be about patting himself on the back for being a more rational and less emotional thinker than everyone else, which of course is very easy to do after the fact and also - if this is the first time he's expressed these views - a bit cowardly.

England lost that game in large part in the middle of the park due to the excellence of Luka Modric. This was seen as a distinct possibility by pretty much every England fan with a rudimentary understanding of the game. It came as a surprise to precisely no one. I'm not sure this fella gets out much.
To a point I think that article is fair comment when it's highlighting the swirl of media BS surrounding England and Southgate in particular. What I would criticise it on though is the complete denial that a SF berth was worthless if you didn't play Argentina, Spain, Germany etc along the way. Yes England had an easy draw (made easier, as he says, by an act of surrendering a match to Belgium). However, lower rankings of opponents dont factor in that world cup matches are very strange and unpredictable affairs, and to navigate through any round is an achievement - of sorts at any rate.
 

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