Separating artists from their works

[Nightman]

Kanye's music is hot garbage and I feel like all his fanboy/girls are part of some cult - I've given a go to Ye and Donda, both albums a lot of people gush over, and honestly they're super mid at best.

Kanye's first two albums are absolutely incredible - if you enjoy that type of music, of course.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Kanye's first two albums are absolutely incredible - if you enjoy that type of music, of course.

I enjoy casually, so to say, and they're good, but people are going way overboard for the more recent and very mid albums just because he's Kanye

 

[anjelikaferrett]

I doubt anybody listens to Lost Prophets any more. Or Gary Glitter for that matter for the oldies. If, aged 15, my rock god hero had invited me backstage I would have been there before the words left his mouth. I think in later years people regret their actions but it doesn't necessarily make it rape. More poor judgment. There are so many levels - plying a 16 year old with drink to have your wicked way with them; co-ercive, controlling, manipulative behavour as practiced by many sports coaches to facilitate sexual activity with children. It's horrific. When you get to pre-pubescent child abuse then the perpetrators and their works should be wiped off the face of the earth.

I always have a discussion with myself about Bryan Ferry when I listen to him. Fox hunting Tory tw@t that he is. Totally not aligned with my beliefs. But I love his music.

 

[SussexToffee1980]

Brand New is another good example of this

.... and Ryan Adams.

 

[coollino]

Whassallthisden?

Myspace got rid of all the old accounts, there were definitely some pretty dodgy messages going on between bands and some fans under the age of 17

 

[Baines' left foot]

That's very similar with my gf with Matt. It's even spoilt Real Estate for her, they were by far one of her favourite bands and she doesn't listen to them much at all anymore

Early ducktails was great too

Yeah I definitely don't listen to them as much as I used to.

I got in to Ducktails a bit late, but St Catherine was really good.

 

[Royal]

is this a nice painting?

 

[Baines' left foot]

Michael Jackson is one that interests me. You barely ever hear his music on the relevant radio stations these days, but I'd still probably find myself singing along to Billie Jean etc. if I was out and it came on.

It's pretty much accepted that he was a very dodgy individual to say the least, although he was never convicted, yet it's probably not socially unacceptable to play his music at a party etc.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Jackson Pollock was a moody feck to.

 

[dylsexicbleu]

Someone would have to be especially abhorrent as a human being for it to influence my opinion of their work. I expect an artistic temperament from artistic people. I'd be cut off from 90% of modern popular culture if I only consumed art from nice people. All I'd have to watch on telly is reruns of Last of the Summer Wine and Lovejoy.

 

[ArtetaMoney]

Some of R Kelly's tunes are absolute bangers and are still on my Spotify playlist, he is a PoS human though.

 

[Abertonian]

If we sorted all works of art through a filter set to todays norms and societal standards there wouldn't be much left to consume. Its hard to think of many artists that don't have something about them that someone can object about. John Lennon was a hero of mine growing up and the reality of the man doesn't tally up with the persona, still love the Beatles and his solo output though (well most of it) because I believe that while who he was shaped his creative output the songs can be appreciated for what they are. I'm mindful that a lot of his messaging is hypocritical nonsense though but I don't need him to be a guru or inspiration just a good songwriter, singer and musician. Sane applies to Bowie, Page, Clapton, Steven Tyler etc.

While I don't agree with adults having sex with underage people, I do think that there is some distinction between rock stars that slept with underage groupies who had put themselves in their orbit, and predatory paedophiles like Watkins, Glitter and Saville who sought out infants or the disabled / infirmed to act out their sick fantasies. I personally wouldn't listen to Lost Prophets music now as Watkins crimes were so horrific that I can't separate the art from the man, still don't think the music should be cancelled though, the market will dictate its longevity naturally. It is effective, Michael Jackson was one of the most famous humans (?!?) on earth during the 80s when I was growing up, the next generation probably wont know much about him.

Who knows what will happen in another 100 years, they might decide to wipe todays artists from the history books, if anyone bothers to remember them.

 

[Tramps_mate]

No. I still want to blast Lostprophets songs.

I threw my albums in the bin. Just cant bring myself to listen again. Obviously the rest of the band have suffered due to the lead singer but what he did was just too deplorable! First album was excellent too..

 

[Nymzee]

I threw my albums in the bin. Just cant bring myself to listen again. Obviously the rest of the band have suffered due to the lead singer but what he did was just too deplorable! First album was excellent too..

Yeh I just disconnect it. I love the songs too much to stop listening.

 

[Charro]

Lostprophets is another level though isn't it?