keverton
Player Valuation: £10m
I would just like to point out Leighton baines took about 6 months to bed in to our team if I remember correctly
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I would just like to point out Leighton baines took about 6 months to bed in to our team if I remember correctly
On that foul it was a soft foul to give as he just slipped but on MOTD baines did knudge him ever so slightly with his two hands at first I thought Baines had not touched him at all but it was a bad decision, but we still should have defend a lopped cross to the back post every central defender was facing the wrong way JH was static - he had another mare imo - Jags is not a fullback - Coleman & Victor are on Jankers all down to the dithering I wont use a sub Dave!!!!!!
i know he missed a lot, but i didnt think he made a major bad judgement. for there goal, Baines shouldnt be in his back like that, the only thing that pisssed me off was they did that to us all game and we got nothing.
ive seen a lot worse at goodison.
ive seen a lot worse at goodison.
zed
Player Valuation: £25m
exactly. and anyone reckons baines barely touching that lad was a foul should take up knitting
And there's too much "I'm happy to ignore how poorly we played in favour of lambasting a ref for giving a free kick 40 yards out in the 90th minute" in your post.
I don't know if you ever got to see Everton play in the '84 - '89 stretch, but I would like to see us return to that level of consistently good play. Week in, week out we should comfortably handle teams such as Norwich, Reading, Wigan, QPR, Fulham and Sunderland, but in recent weeks we've dropped points against all of the teams I've just named.
I hope the players are more ambitious than to be satisfied with getting a one goal lead, playing like poop from that point on and trusting that the ref will never make a mistake. Nor do I want to win games by playing no better than the opposition, but getting some arbitrary "fair share" of bad decisions in our favour. I have higher aspirations for this team and going by some of the other threads currently being discussed on this forum ( Moyes' questionable team selection; Moyes' in-game tactics; Poor performance by Howard / Heitinga / Pieenar / Jelavic ) it would seem that many others do too.
The ref didn't stop both of Baines' efforts yesterday.
He didn't force Osman to smash a half-volley into the ground rather than the net.
He didn't cause Naismith to make a pig's ear of what should have been a simple square ball for Jelavic to smash in from twelve yards.
He didn't launch the free kick into the box, he didn't stop Howard from challenging for the ball, he didn't leave Bassong unmarked either. But the way you and others like you are going on, you'd think the ref scored the goal himself.
Had someone cleared that ball off the line and we'd won, I hope you'd be level-headed enough to admit that we'd wasted plenty of chances but somehow defended just well enough to squeak a win - but if you think that's good enough, then you've forgotten this club's motto: Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
zed
Player Valuation: £25m
its the thread topic so i will discuss the ref in here if you dont mind. you want to talk about how abismal howard was? he seemed to be dying to let a goal in, half way through the second half he got down to a header near his feet but nearly somehow let it slip under him. hes a f*cken liability and i dont want to see him in an everton shirt ever again. NSNO has by-passed moyes it seems. back on topic, all teams have off days so you take any luck that comes your way- if it takes `right calls` by the ref to get us through a sticky spell in a game then whats so bad about that. almost every game we have had major decisions go against us and thats ignoring the nit picking of 50/50s that go to the opposition. contrast us with LFC today and all rogers talked about was their offside `goal` which was a right call by the linesman but still they let it be known the vast majority of calls should go LFCs way or look out.
Chang Elephant
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****ing hell lads it's not rocket science. The referee doesn't give a free kick for a non existent foul, we have three points. Over the 90 minutes we were clearly the better side, so don't be applauding the ref for working it to us.
zed
Player Valuation: £25m
but...but... but we shudda been like 40 nil up so yer cant bleem der ref for hossie not scoran ten like
Chang Elephant
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thebluefox
Player Valuation: £50m
moyes told members of his back room staff baines wasnt strong enough for the prem leauge
Are you honestly saying that from the moment the ref blew the whistle for that free kick, there was NOTHING we could have done differently to prevent the goal?
Really?
In that case, how come WE don't score whenever we get a free kick forty yards out? I mean, they did it, and we're clearly better than them.
Not at all. You and I both are discussing the ref, we just have different opinions.
Nothing. It's just sad if that represents the high point of what you hope your team will deliver on the field. I refer you once again to the motto on our club crest.
Yes, spot on. The two disallowed goals against Newcastle, the failure of the officials to send off Sterling and Suarez in the Derby, the Morrison handball in the area against Reading: all major decisions. So why are you putting a free kick near halfway in the same category? That's not a major decision. The only reason we're even talking about it is because several mistakes by us immediately afterwards saw them score a goal. If we'd defended correctly, this thread wouldn't even exist.
Contrast is a good word to use. They're bleating about a goal, you're bleating about a free kick near halfway.
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Gianpy
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Frustrating, but we only have ourselves to blame for the majority of issues. More than anything, I'm afraid of our current positioning seeing as were on the 'fringe' zone between Europa League & nothing.
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