Should Martinez be sacked? (Post-Stoke poll)

Should Martinez be sacked?

  • Yes

    Votes: 121 20.3%

  • No

    Votes: 475 79.7%
  • Total voters
    596
  • Poll closed .
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jazzy said:
For me the only thing keeping him in a job is the Europa League results.

Like everyone else I can't see BK getting rid but if we lose to Newcastle ,Hull and West Ham ( entirely possible on current form ) his position may become untenable.

I desperately want to see him succeed but how much longer is it going to take before he realises that players must be played in their correct positions , Barry is not undropable , that there is a time when we need to be direct and when we pass we must move the ball quicker?
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Amen to every word
 

Eto'o and Naismith are massively to blame for our problems alongside martinez.

Both should be squad players who can offer us something to rotate with but martinez hasn't the bottle to do this and instead has ruined the team chemistry trying to fit everyone into the starting 11 at the expense of a balanced side.

And people on here wonder why we are so slow in our build up play lol it's because we have no settled side ffs. Changes week in week out.

See Chelsea as an example of how it's done, everyone knows there place and the team stays the same whenever it can. Schurrle score's a worldie he's still a squad player, martinez on the other hand would squeeze him into the side moving hazard out of position to do so.
 
One thing that may be worth mentioning, even though it has no impact whatsoever on anything:

It isn't so much that Martinez is playing guys in the wrong position. He's actually playing multiple guys in the same position. Barkley's not hanging about the left flank getting dispossessed by the right back, he's hanging about the middle of the pitch getting dispossessed by Naismith's marker, and vice versa.
 
We have several fairly obvious problems:
  • We expect to dominate possession whoever we play against. Teams will let us do that so that we send both fullbacks forward. They'll then crowd us out in the middle and spring a quick break against our two centrebacks.
  • We always take two touches and we play the ball to stationary team mates. It should be one touch, pass and move.
  • We never mix it up. Lukaku very often asks for the ball early from our defenders but we play the ball through midfield and give the opposition time to get back. Baines is one of the best crossers in Europe but he very rarely slings the ball into the box any more.
  • We keep shooting ourselves in the foot. We're creating our own problems with sloppy, silly mistakes.
  • Our midfielders are too greedy. Mirallas, Barkley and Naismith will more likely shoot on sight rather than look to play Lukaku or each other in and that very often means snatched efforts from outside the box rather than crafting a move to create space.
  • Baines and Coleman aren't giving us the width that we're used to and the midfielders invariably cut inside. The opposition can quite easily crowd us out.
  • Roberto appears to be bringing some players back from injury too soon and persisting with underperformers.
  • For whatever reason, Martinez seems reluctant to vary his system. Southampton mullered us in the air. Couldn't he have sacrificed a holding midfielder for Alcaraz or dropped Barry in as a third CB to limit the space in which the Saints could play? Barkley has shown that he can play a more disciplined role, so why can't we switch to 4-4-2 when we're chasing games?
  • It seems like the manager doesn't know how to accommodate his best players. Muller nominally plays on the right for Bayern and Germany but he's actually a goalscorer like Naismith. Why can't Naisy's starting position be on the left, so that Barkley can play through the middle?
We have had a lot of injuries, the distraction of Europe and misfortune/human error. I don't think that we're clinical enough at either end though. We're too nice and naive. We need to have a bit more of a mean streak and to stop obsessing with being an attractive passing side.
 

Klaas said:
Ultimately opining based on stats has been is more sound than doing so by emotion; thats if the observer understands basic statistical theory.
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Passing opinion based on reality, what I see with my own eyes and have done for over 40 years is much more reliable than statistics.....when football becomes a game decided by statistics instead of a game fuelled by passion and emotion I'll knock it on the head thanks. If you want to rely on statistics, quantum physics, the Mandelbrot set and math then have fun.
This "observer" understands football.
 

EverBlue86 said:
Eto'o and Naismith are massively to blame for our problems alongside martinez.

Both should be squad players who can offer us something to rotate with but martinez hasn't the bottle to do this and instead has ruined the team chemistry trying to fit everyone into the starting 11 at the expense of a balanced side.

And people on here wonder why we are so slow in our build up play lol it's because we have no settled side ffs. Changes week in week out.

See Chelsea as an example of how it's done, everyone knows there place and the team stays the same whenever it can. Schurrle score's a worldie he's still a squad player, martinez on the other hand would squeeze him into the side moving hazard out of position to do so.
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evertony said:
Passing opinion based on reality, what I see with my own eyes and have done for over 40 years is much more reliable than statistics.....when football becomes a game decided by statistics instead of a game fuelled by passion and emotion I'll knock it on the head thanks. If you want to rely on statistics, quantum physics, the Mandelbrot set and math then have fun.
This "observer" understands football.
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I am with you, Tone.

;)
 

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