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Silly Season January 2014

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He's a 1 in 4 striker. If we get him for nothing, which is what we seem to want, and he's 3rd choice then that's pretty good. Not many teams, especially those who play 1 up front, would have a 1 in 4 striker as back up to the back up.
 
bluestevon said:
Thing is mate both those players second chances where more requirted for disciplinary reasons involving violent conduct more than anything

Hartsons carreer showed he always banged in the goals, long before his time at celtic, his scoring rate was actually decent, in fact had a few really good years most noticably with west ham

Ferguson was only like 22-23 when he got ghis second chance with us mate and lets face it wasnt down to playing crap it was down to the trouble he was getting in up scotland

Neither is an example of a 30 year old, lazy bag of ****e with no footballing skill or ability and whose been hated on by his own fans at every club hes been at - that alone tells me a lot
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I was talking more about when Dunc came back from Tyneside but I get your point

Gazza at Boro would be an example, where he was beyond washed up but still did a good job

Best at Fulham

There are examples
 
toffeeblue9 said:
I half agree.

Everton are 5 points better off than they were at the same stage of last season.

Our current tally of 41 points is the best we have ever achieved after 21 games in The Premier League era (we had 40 in the year we finished 4th).

I think it's a bit unfair to underplay how good we've been, but I do agree with your point about the need to invest. I think that on 2nd September, we had a squad with enough depth to challenge this season. Injuries since then have stretched us - Mcgeady makes a lot of sense as the injury to Deulofeu left us without cover in wide areas and we now lack cover in central midfield and in attack. If we are able to sort out players in those two positions this month (centre mid really only needs to be a temporary solution), I think we'll be ok. We may not get top 4 because there may end up simply being 4 or more better sides than us, but two more players this month is a must to ensure we have the right squad depth to achieve what we want to.
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I agree with this, we really only a squad player at CM as cover for barry/mccarthy. Once gibson's back next year that will be a solid 3 man rotation(think barry will sign a prem). While it'd be great to bring in a talented striker, i think RM is only looking for short term solutions to back up Lukaku right now. He'll try to sign a starting striker for us in the summer imo
 
AaronTheBlue said:
Never compare big dunc or John Hartson to 'Kenwyne Jones'. More talent in their little toes than that lazy nob will ever have in his body.

He's never 'banged them in' for any prem club. He wouldn't do it in here.

Stop trying to convince yourself he'd be 'okay' he wouldn't. Strac would offer more.

This isn't a 'fume' post or anything of the sort. I know he won't sign, but it's annoying to see people that desperate for a transfer that they're convincing themselves Kenwyne Jones wouldn't be too bad.

He's at stoke for a reason. He's not starting at stoke for a reason.
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Strac was gash, granted he'd run all day for you, but he wasn't very good. I'd never like to see him or his type back in an Everton shirt.
 

blueblue said:
Whoever is signed by RM gets my support and will keep it until they prove they don't deserve it.

I think Kenwynne Jones is a talented player who has never fully delivered on that talent.

If however we also sign a younger striker like Bathsuayi and Jones is brought in to give cover and premiership experience then I am satisfied that we have strengthened.
This will give the younger striker time to settle into the club without unrealistic demands being made of him.
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Yep. But he's 29 now. If he hasn't delivered now he never will. Same with Anichebe, even though he's much younger. You cannot give him forever before realising he is crap and not worth of the millions of pounds these teams are paying him.

Plus his attitude stinks. What sort of horrible get goes on strike at a club paying him 40k a week for kicking a ball around and offering him the millionaire lifestyle he's become accustomed to? Disgusting.

Hope he comes nowhere near our club, more for the fact he's incredibly useless over having a stinking attitude, to be honest.
 
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Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
I was talking more about when Dunc came back from Tyneside but I get your point

Gazza at Boro would be an example, where he was beyond washed up but still did a good job

Best at Fulham

There are examples
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all 3 examples are of total quality players though mate, putting jones anywhere near that company is a insult to them all frankly
 
Christiffa25 said:
Liverpool signed Sturridge and countinho last jan and it made a difference. We need to do similar to seriously try and claim that 4th spot.

Let's get this straight and be realistic here Kenwyn Jones will NOT have that sort of affect or impact!! It would be a shocking signing it really would. I only hope it's some BS or a desperate last measure if everything else goes tits up, at which which point he's be coming in till the summer only and be behind Mirallass and Naismith in the pecking order.
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Bathsuayi and Tadic

15mil well spent !!
 

bluestevon said:
all 3 examples are of total quality players though mate, putting jones anywhere near that company is a insult to them all frankly
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Alright then, Dave Mackay

Journeyman player far past his best. Peter Taylor suggested Brian Clough buy him and use him as a sweeper. They did so and Derby went on an amazing run of form

I'm not saying Jones is as good as the aforementioned players but what I am saying is that you can never predict how a player will do under new surroundings and with a new manager regardless of their talent and previous performances

That being said, I'd still want Long over Jones
 
sbbefc said:
I wouldn't have thought Jones is the right 'character' for RM.
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How much do people actually know about him though?

Maybe it's been overblown?

Maybe RM's met him and liked him?

Maybe he will meet him and decide not to sign him?

This does seem like a strange choice, but maybe Martinez has an angle?

You just never know (About the 10th time I've said that today. Really need to work on that)
 

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