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Silly Season January 2014

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Tubey said:
Well that'd be the fourteen years of exactly the same thing really. Sort of learning through repetition.

What's Martinez supposed to do, come out and slate the board? He's in the same position Moyes was here.

There's simply no way a sensible manager like Martinez can look at our squad, look at our league position and come to the conclusion that we'll go with what we've got. It's just not an optimal solution, it makes no sense. The brass ring is there to be grasped at, but once again we aren't being backed properly from the board.

Here's a thought - are they content to keep the funds in the account for seven more months to accrue interest?
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Unanswerable.
 
I think it is true that players cost more now than in the summer. Reason being the other team then HAS to find their own replacement so to pay for their replacement they ask for more money from the buying club. Just like a merry go round they do it, even chelsea sold players for more because matic and saleh went for more than their value in retrospect.

United are the exception this time round because they have spent for the sake of spending to improve the squad.
 

"@GregOK: Any other signings 2day hinge on Heitinga's people persuading a club to match his high wages at EFC. If they can't he'll stay where he is"


Having to sell to loan... Absolutely pathetic!
 
toffeeblue9 said:
Why is it unbelievable?

Maybe Martinez has 3 or 4 players he really wants. Maybe the clubs who own those players simply won't sell them midway through the season, unless it's for a big premium on top of what they would be prepared to sell for in the summer. Maybe Martinez doesn't want to jeopardise his summer plans by spending too much of his cash now.

If he got 2 of his targets in now, that might mean he'd not have enough for the others he wants.

It's actually pretty sensible and I'd rather take a long term view on it.

I absolutely agree we need a centre mid as cover for Gibson, but given that Gibson will be back before the end of the season, a loan makes a lot of sense.

I don't have a problem with Martinez's view on this
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Someone talking complete sense at last!!
 
Azza said:
"@GregOK: Any other signings 2day hinge on Heitinga's people persuading a club to match his high wages at EFC. If they can't he'll stay where he is"


Having to sell to loan... Absolutely pathetic!
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Shakes head there is no money that just proves it to me
 
Azza said:
"@GregOK: Any other signings 2day hinge on Heitinga's people persuading a club to match his high wages at EFC. If they can't he'll stay where he is"


Having to sell to loan... Absolutely pathetic!
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Greg O'Keeffe ‏@GregOK 2m
When I say 'hinge' that's manager's take on it. One out, one in. He has money otherwise to spend but his strategy is to wait until summer.
 

Azza said:
"@GregOK: Any other signings 2day hinge on Heitinga's people persuading a club to match his high wages at EFC. If they can't he'll stay where he is"


Having to sell to loan... Absolutely pathetic!
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So, basically, we have targets, but it's dependent on Heitinga.

So that's basically nuts to the "Martinez happy with what he's got" argument. If Heitinga stays and Martinez doesn't sign a target, then his squad isn't what he wanted it to be.

Or to summarise, we should have £20m in the bank, but we're desperately hoping to shift £60k a week off the books to afford a five month loan.

Embarrassing.
 
Paul C said:
Thankfully it appears Martinez is more of a Wenger than a Redknapp. We'll reap the benefits of that in the mid and long term I guarantee it.
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It depends what you mean by reap the benefits.

We hit a diamond ceiling under Moyes and will do so under whoever manages us.

There is no way we can compete over an entire season with clubs who can:
1. Buy the best players in the world for hundreds of millions of pounds
2. Pay wages 4-5 times higher than we can

If we get injuries to key players we have to play kids or freebies.

If any of our players are "too good" they will leave and play for one of the clubs above us. We are already at the point where Chelsea are buying players to stop other clubs getting them.

I'm also not convinced the strategy of loaning players will be good in the long run. Our model has been buy/improve/sell. The only financing we have is self-generated from player sales.

The summer will be interesting, if we are setting ourselves up as a finishing school for the mega-clubs then I expect more exciting loans to come in. However the days of actually signing a player and having them for 5+ years (like Cahill, Arteta etc) might be over.
 
I have heard Mario Suarez mata (apparently his name) is as cocky and deadly as Mario Ballotelli, scores wonder goals against crap teams like Rat boy and can thread the eye of a needle with his eyes closed like juan mata.

Get in!!!!!!!!!
 
Unlike when Moyes was in charge, Simple mathematics suggedt there is money available. Martinez is on record as saying so repeatedly. Or are you suggesting he is fibbing to cover the board?

My reasoning is 'if it looks like a cat it's a cat'. It looks like we have money but the manager is wary of wasting it so I'll take that as the situation. Your reasoning seems to be 'if it looks like a cat then that must be the board's evil hand at work' ;-)

NB aren't we one player up since 1st Jan? Traore and McGeady likely to play more minutes than Jela would?

davek said:
They are proven not to be trusted in the transfer market and yet you believe some slack should be given to them in their dealings with a new manager - precisely why?

If you had a conversation with Moyes right now, do you think he'd share your belief that Martinez is guiding the club transfer policy to his own liking? "He'll find out how the club works". He might be a lot of things Moyes, but he was spot on there and I bet Martinez is mulling those words over right now.
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chris ashton17 said:
I have heard Mario Suarez mata (apparently his name) is as cocky and deadly as Mario Ballotelli, scores wonder goals against crap teams like Rat boy and can thread the eye of a needle with his eyes closed like juan mata.

Get in!!!!!!!!!
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He's really, really good. Tall, great technical ability, bit of a bully, plays like a winner. Would be a fantastic coup for us.
 

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